1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Quick Q: USB vs. AUX...which for best sound quality?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Thai, Jul 2, 2010.

  1. Thai

    Thai Prius Neophyte

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2009
    1,197
    89
    0
    Location:
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    Ok, i am about to venture into 1990's...i am considering an IPOD Classic with 160gb. Anyway, our Prius comes with AUX and USB inputs. Which one do i use for music from my Ipod?? Which one gives the best sound quality?? My friend says the AUX because it is more direct into the radio.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Thai

    Thai Prius Neophyte

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2009
    1,197
    89
    0
    Location:
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    Also, if i do use the USB, then does it charge the Ipod also while plugged in??
     
  3. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    44,831
    16,066
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    USB charges the iPod, AUX doesn't. USB also gives you the functionality to change tracks and view song information while AUX gives you nothing.
     
    1 person likes this.
  4. Jolly Paul

    Jolly Paul Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2010
    162
    28
    0
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Probably no difference on audio quality as the iPod connector includes both analog audio pins as well as the actual USB pins. The USB interface is likely used only to enumerate tracks and issue commands while the actual audio signal is still analog.
     
  5. brandonpa

    brandonpa New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2009
    49
    1
    0
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    III
    You can control your ipod through your stereo. It is sort of a hassle though. When you go to switch tracks you scroll through the tracks and it changes the songs as you scroll, so you switch to a new song, it switches and starts to play, and then you switch again to find what song you want and it plays. Unless you really want the titles to show up on your stereo or need to charge your ipod, I usually just use the aux to play my ipod. Then control remains in the ipod and you can change your songs just as you were listening to it with head phones.
     
  6. macman408

    macman408 Electron Guidance Counselor

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2010
    1,179
    365
    1
    Location:
    California
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    Theoretically, the USB is probably the best option, as the data is transmitted digitally, not in analog form. As digital data, there is no noise introduced, while an analog transmission (like Aux) will pick up noise from RF interference.
    Practically, it depends on a lot of things; the quality of the MP3 decoder in the iPod versus that in the car, the amount of RF energy to be picked up, etc. If you're really concerned about it, get in the car with your friend, and have somebody else in the back seat switch the iPod between Aux and USB without telling you which you're listening to. Pick whichever sounds better. Or do an ABX comparison - listen to Aux, then to USB, then to an unknown one, and see if you can correctly identify which source it's coming from. Most likely, you won't be able to tell a difference.

    As an aside, if you do use the Aux port, the best signal to noise ratio will be obtained if you have the iPod volume turned up all the way (or as high as you can without getting any clipping or other distortion in the sound), and the stereo's volume turned down to give an acceptable volume. That makes the signal strength on the analog path to the stereo much greater than the noise. The other way around (low volume on the iPod, high on the stereo) means that you end up amplifying the noise rather than attenuating it.
     
    1 person likes this.
  7. eglmainz

    eglmainz New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2009
    887
    141
    0
    Location:
    Chicagoland, IL
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    Might I suggest a third option? Depending upon which model you have, and the audio system capabilities. In my case, I have a Prius V with Navi, and I use the bluetooth streaming from my iPhone, my kids iPod Touch, or the iPad. In all cases, they stream beautifully in digital sound via this, and I have never had an issue with the sound quality.

    Otherwise, I agree that USB should carry the signal better, and be less susceptible to interference than the 3.5mm audio plug.
     
    1 person likes this.
  8. Thai

    Thai Prius Neophyte

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2009
    1,197
    89
    0
    Location:
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    Does USB provide more control over the Ipod than BT streaming? From my readings, BT streaming only provides a "PLAY" and a "PAUSE" on the NAVI screen. Does USB provide more options than that? According to Tideland, it seems USB provides more options on the NAVI screen, along with charging the Ipod.
     
  9. eglmainz

    eglmainz New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2009
    887
    141
    0
    Location:
    Chicagoland, IL
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    While I did not pay for the 'iPod' controller which is available, my understanding with the USB is that it is only a portal to play sound, and does not control the iPods. If this is not the case, I would love to know more. My car was shipped before the USB became part of the 2010 vehicles.

    Otherwise, you are correct that until Toyota upgrades the Bluetooth software in the vehicle, it will only allow you to 'play and pause' tunes via the screen.
     
  10. web1b

    web1b Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2007
    817
    52
    0
    You can skip tracks forward and back with USB.
    The person has an iPod Classic, so bluetooth streaming is not an option for them unless they get some kind of add-on dongle.
    Apple is the one that needs to upgrade their software on iPhones and iPod Touches to allow skipping tracks over bluetooth, not Toyota.
     
  11. eglmainz

    eglmainz New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2009
    887
    141
    0
    Location:
    Chicagoland, IL
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    I was unaware of the skipping via the USB, as I've mentioned, I do not have that.

    As for the OP, he did not state that he had an iPod Classic, only that he was "... considering an IPOD Classic with 160gb..." which is one of the reasons I went there. If he already had it, I would not have mentioned it. Although I stand by the fact that I feel that the streaming may be the best sounding option available, even if it's not available for every vehicle/device combination.
     
  12. web1b

    web1b Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2007
    817
    52
    0
    Bluetooth stereo streaming commonly has lower quality sound than either AUX or USB. It depends on how good the bluetooth implementation is on both the car and the phone, but A2DP streaming often has more limited fidelity than AUX or USB.

    Often best to worse is CD, USB, headphone jack, A2DP streaming, Satellite, FM, AM.
     
  13. stream

    stream Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2008
    2,977
    452
    14
    Location:
    Long Island, NY
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    If only there was an audio & electronics sub-forum for posts like this, so they wouldn't clog up the main Gen III forum.

    Oh...wait...there is... :D
     
  14. Thai

    Thai Prius Neophyte

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2009
    1,197
    89
    0
    Location:
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    Yeah, maybe you as a moderator can move it. Oh...wait...you're not one.... :D
     
  15. austingreen

    austingreen Senior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2009
    13,533
    4,063
    0
    Location:
    Austin, TX, USA
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    N/A

    The USB interface allows you to charge and control your ipod. There are some problems with the toyota interface and you may prefer to navigate through your ipod directly. In this case you would use aux. Try it with the usb first and see if you like it, if you have problems I would go to aux and direct control on the ipod. The best sound on aux will come through a connector on the bottom with line out, not the headphone jack. I would expect both to sound good, and would choose depending on the way you want to control your music.

    Only the ipod and iphone come with bt streaming and it doesn't give you as much control as usb. The sound quality is surprisingly good, but not as good as plugging the ipod directly into the car.

    I have a nano which holds plenty of music, and is good for running and taking on trips. The classic can hold all of your music, but I find I have better luck paring it down to a huge but managable subset. With the classic you have enough room that you can decide on the fly. The other good choice is the 32gb touch which gives you wifi connectivity, blue tooth, and voice control (you can tell it to play an artist or album without looking at the screen). Don't get the 8gb touch it doesn't have voice control.

    If you use losssless compression when ripping you get the full cd sound quality. I've moved most of my music at 320bit aac, but my classical music is ripped losslessly. The 256bit that your can buy at itunes store and amazon sounds good but I can notice the difference on some songs.

    Have fun with your new toy. Having all the music at your fingertips without changing cds really will change the way you listen.
     
    1 person likes this.
  16. Thai

    Thai Prius Neophyte

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2009
    1,197
    89
    0
    Location:
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V
    Austingreen, thanks a million! Yeah, i have been using CD's. I would buy CD's from store, go home and copy the songs that i like onto another CD. It is nice, but PIA and, obviously, a waste of money. So, this is why i have seriously consider getting more techno advance.

    Thanks again everyone for your valuable input!!