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Mazda2 backlit Homelink Mirror to Prius?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by mhmercer, Sep 25, 2010.

  1. mhmercer

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    I know that this topic has been beaten to death, but....

    I go to work in the dark and fumble to find my Model V's mirror's Homelink buttons after backing out of the garage. No fun in that. I've been looking at the Mazda2 Touring mirror as a possible replacement. Both appear to be Gentex. Oddly, Gentex does not seem to offer to the retail market a mirror with back-lit buttons.

    The Mazda piece (0000-8C-Z08 -- $250) has three, back-lit, Homelink buttons, and a compass. Anyone have a clue if this could be a simple swap with my stock unit? I suspect that my current mirror wiring harness connector would have to be fed 12v to the appropriate pins for the compass and buttons' back-light to work, but the power for that is there now for the stock item's needs.

    Any thoughts?

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    I have installation instructions for the Gentex Mirror I'm installing, it's the 50-GENK41A AutoDim with HomeLink. They list all the Gentex Mirrors (Model 50-GENK31 - 50-GENK62, 50-GENK45A is listed as AutoDim, w/HomeLink and Compass), all but the 50-GENK31 have a 10 Pin Harness, with three leads (Ignition, Ground & Battery). If you could cross the Mazda Model Number to a Gentex Model Number, you'll probably find it uses the same (or compatible) harness. I would thing the pin out on the harness plug would be the same on all of them, some just have more options then others, and power is probably distributed in the internal circuitry. So, chances are you just have to replace the mirror and can use the existing harness, a simple swap out.
     
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    Thanks, Paul. That's what I was thinking about the harness. A VOM will tell the rest of the story. Hope that your installation goes well.

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    Order made. I should have the mirror in hand by the end of the week. We'll see how the installation goes. You can send to me your mailing address after I confirm that everything is a "go" on my end.

    Thanks again,

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    thank you!

    subscribing to thread for updates.
     
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    one thing to check out.. I just installed a dimming mirror, and drove a long time on highway dark yesterday.. the rear hatch crossbar caused a shadow over the mirror sensor the whole way.. so it never dimmed. I have a compass as well, so flipping the mirror upside down won't work... same as the homelink buttons

    anyone have a working dimming mirror?

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    Try moving the stalk the mirror mounts to up or down to ensure the sensor is aligned with the lower window opening. You should have a coupls inches of travel to adjust it to the point the sensor is consistanly reading the incoming light behind you.
     
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    the mirror I installed doesn't have any movement room 'up'.. I would have to move the windshield mounted tab.

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    Hmmm, I guess I assumed it was like my Gentex Mirror. They do sell kits for remounting the button the mirror mounts to, so quite possibly your could relocate the button so the sensor is in line with the lights behind you. You can get the remounting kit at any auto parts store of Walmart.
     
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    there is a mesh on the windshield above the existing mount.. I would have to remove that.. I put one of the buttons on my 55 custom truck for inside mirror mount..

    this is a mirror from a 99 Silverado with compass.
    but made by Gentex

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    its still do-able...if the dot mesh won't easily scrape off with a razor blade, glue it directly to it anyway...just be sure to rough up/sand the backside of the mounting button before gluing it.
     
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    I just used button #3 for my garage door. It is right under the green power light, and easy to find in the dark.
     
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    I do the same thing. All of my controllers are configured the same way: garage button on the right; gate on the left; nothing in the middle. It works. I just don't care to do it that way.

    My new mirror has not arrived, so nothing to report back on that score.

    Cheers,

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    The Mazda2 mirror came in yesterday. Other than having back-lit Homelink buttons, and a compass with its own power button, it looks identical to stock: same size; seemingly the same three wires running through the short harness; color; shape; mount. I'll try to install it over the weekend, then report back.

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    cool, so its plug n play?

    should be an easy install.
     
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    Don't know yet. This weekend perhaps. Please keep in mind that ALL models COULD install this mirror, but it may get expensive ($100 or so) for those GenIII cars without a Homelink mirror to begin with. My Model V looks plug-n-play, but it may not be. I need to use a VOM to test the three mirror-harness wires for voltage or ground on the appropriate lead.

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    Project completed! Everything works as expected. Back-lit Homelink buttons, Homelink functions, and compass are all 'good-to-go'. The compass' display dims or brightens along with the electrochromic mirror's image.

    Be warned: this is NOT Plug-N-Play.

    It took me six hours. Why? Certainly not because it was such a difficult job; it was not. What took so long was getting the mirror stalk's ball-in-socket separated from the ball on the window mount. Jeeze! There must be an easier way to do this. I used heat. I pulled. All to not avail. I finally chucked the whole thing in a vice and levered down on the stalk until the ball popped out. Gorilla magic. Did that for both mirrors, then swapped-out the mounting balls. Four hours shot. Patience my ***!

    Cut the white-insulator covered power cable from the stock mirror, pulled out the three wires used: hot; ground; switched 12v, then tested them with a VOM. Checked the wiring diagram from the Mazda2 instructions and soldered the old wires to a shortened version of the Mazda plug. Tested again with the VOM. Plugged the Mazda cable into the mirror, then plugged the Prius cable into its connector. Ignition 'on' to re-check. Almost done.

    Before I started this project, I had wondered why the trim piece between the headliner cover and the mirror ball did not fit. The trim piece had been mounted upside-down. Dumb. After that mystery was solved, I noticed that I did not have enough room for the, now, external mirror-wire to hide under the trim cover, and go over the windshield-side mounting ball. Using a drill and side cutters, I cut a notch in the lower section of the trim. Everything fit.

    As per the included instructions, I took the car out for the "three circles" drill used to calibrate the compass. A few clicks set the compass' zone for my area. Done.

    Was it worth the effort to me? Yes; no question about it. Would I do it again? Yup. Should you do it? That's really up to you. Do you have a #20 Torx driver? $5 will buy one. Do you have a vice and a lot of faith that your new mirror will not break when you force it? Go for it. Do you have the experience and equipment to run-down the functions of three electrical wires, the courage/faith to snip existing wires, and the skill to solder those to the wires of an unlike connector? If not, stop there. Hire someone to do the work for you.

    If 'yes' on all counts, put some major muscle on the ball joint, snip those wires, and have some fun.

    Cheers,

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    whoa.....after all that...let's see some pics in dim light.
     
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    +1!