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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Codemonkey812, Mar 11, 2011.

  1. Codemonkey812

    Codemonkey812 Junior Member

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    My wife and I purchased a 2006 Prius last week, and she has been driving it all week with out issue. Tonight she called me to tell me the Nav stopped working with a DVD error, and the voice command function is also not working. I told here that would research and review when she got home. When she go to her destination, she noticed the SKS is now not working to unlock the doors. Is there a reboot for the computer systems?
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    Do you know if the car is still on its original 12 volt? If so, it's probably on its last legs.

    See http://priuschat.com/forums/newbie-forum/73400-weird-stuff-happening-mpgs-dropping-test-battery.html or the procedure at http://priuschat.com/forums/newbie-forum/73400-weird-stuff-happening-mpgs-dropping-test-battery.html. I'd personally make a note of the voltage after the car has been sitting many hours or overnight.

    As for SKS "now not working to unlock the doors", did she bump the SKS disable button under the steering column? If it hasn't been accidentally disabled (and the 12 volt isn't low/bad), perhaps you need a new CR2032 for the fob.
     
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    The Carfax report shows the battery was replaced 9/16/2010 at 63K miles. The car is now at 70K miles.
     
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    I see. I'd test it anyway.

    The previous owner could've killed the replacement by doing things like leaving the interior lights on.

    When the SKS is "now not working to unlock the doors", can she still power on the car w/o putting the key in the slot? A totally dead SKS battery or disabled SKS system (via switch under steering column) would mean she'd have to put it in the slot.

    Also, if you have a low SKS battery, after you've driven 20 minutes (IIRC) and then you shut down, the car will emit a beep (so obvious! :rolleyes:). It's mentioned in the manual but I don't recall if you have to have driven around w/the key not in the slot for that to happen.

    Side note: If the transmission fluid hasn't been changed, I'd get it done soon. There was a recent discussion of cost at http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-ii-...alerships-transmission-fluid.html#post1282115.
     
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    lol...Would the 12V being ran down to the point the car had to be jumped cause it to go bad? The dealer we bought the car from left the lights on the day we went to pick it up, so they jumped it. I drove it for 45 minutes that night to charge the battery per their instructions.
     
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    I'm not a chemist, but it's not good for it.

    Patrick Wong, one of our resident repair experts, has suggested a number of times (such as below) that you need to use a charger or leave the car on for 8 (!) hours to fully charge the battery.

    http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-ii-...le-12-volt-battery-going-bad.html#post1198459
    http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-ii-...jump-starting-our-dead-prius.html#post1255820
    http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-ii-...y-stuck-in-prius-wont-turn-3.html#post1139203
    http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-ii-...in-service-replace-not-yet-6.html#post1246838 (discusses taking readings after the car has sat for 8 hours or more)
     
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    I have a battery charger, should I try to charge the battery?
     
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    Yes, a charger is fine and the recommended charging rate is 4A or less. 45 minutes of Prius READY operation is insufficient time to charge a 12V battery from a discharged state.
     
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    Ok, Wife just called. After letting the car sit for an hour while shopping it is working fine. I will put the battery charger on it when she gets home.

    Thank you all for your help.
     
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    Ok, I charged the battery over night (8 hours) at 2A. I drove the cars about a mile to make sure everything was working and for me everything was checking out. But now my wifes smart key is not working (mine works), she had to put it in the slot to get the car to start. I did disconnect the neg lead on the battery when I charged it, so could the car have lost its programming? If so can I re-pair the smart key to the car?
     
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    I forgot to mention when she tried to start the car she got a icon on the dashboard. A red car with a key in it.
     
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    That happens if you get into the car to try it when your wife asks you to check the car out and you drive away without the key in your pocket! Change the battery in her FOB. Hal
     
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    Also make sure the SKS button under the steering column is in the OUT position. If it's pushed in, the SKS is disabled.
     
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    The battery in your wife's fob needs to be replaced. CR2032, which you can obtain at any drugstore.
     
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    The fob worked yesterday, and the lock and unlock buttons still work. And my Fob works, so I know the SKS is turned on. Is is possible that by disconnecting the 12V battery overnight the car forgot her fod, and mine works because it was on me when I reconnected the battery?
     
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    OK. However, at some point the fob battery becomes too weak to run the Smart function effectively. Allow me to explain why the fact that the lock/unlock buttons still work, is not a good indication that the fob battery is good enough:

    If the fob battery is new, the lock/unlock buttons will work over a very great distance. If you can see the car, you can probably unlock or lock the doors.

    As the fob battery ages, the lock/unlock range will decrease. If your test is to stand next to the car while using the fob lock/unlock buttons, this says little about the fob battery's condition except that it is not totally dead.

    Now consider what happens when the fob is called upon to act in the Smart mode. As the fob gets within 3 feet of one of the car's Smart antennas, the fob will pick up the car's signal and respond. This two-way communcation continues at all times while the fob is in close proximity to a Smart antenna.

    If the fob battery is weak, the fob is not able to maintain this two-way communication, hence the Smart system will refuse to recognize the fob. You then have to insert the fob into the hole in the dash, which allows an RFID process which does not require the fob to be powered.

    The car's immobilizer ECU did not forget your wife's fob. The proof is that the car would become READY, when she inserted her fob into the dashboard hole. I recommend that you first replace the fob battery which will cost <$5, before looking for a more difficult and costly issue to be solved.

    Your alternative is to take your car to your local Toyota dealer and pay for one labor hour of time. The likely outcome is that you'll be told the fob battery needs to be replaced.
     
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    Patrick,
    Thank you for the explained. I have replaced the battery, and so far everything is back to normal.

    Thank you.