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Is Prius an Econobox?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Thai, May 3, 2011.

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  1. Thai

    Thai Prius Neophyte

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    Shocking that several Prius owners think that the Prius is an econobox...and strangely, the few that do are II owners. You just don't hear this term used by III, IV, or V owners.

    My feeling is that the few II owners who use this term use it because they want to justify their purchase and to bring everyone down to their level...and thus criticize those that buy Prius with more options are "financially stupid" as one II owner once proclaimed!
     
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    REV can't even read the damn brochure to know what is available at what trim! And he's even giving financial advice near the end of the post too!! :D

    And this is a guy who is so financially strap that he can't even afford $60 speakers! Yet, he has a Prius, which apparently is stretching his budget already, and calling other folks financially stupid! :D

    Guess what both of them have in common?? Both are II owners...strange, isn't it?
     
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    Saw a small house. They put in a full climate control system, solid oak floors throughout, custom draperies in all rooms, best furniture money could buy. Looks beautiful BUT UNDERNEATH ITS STILL A FEMA TRAILER.

    Prius options do not move the car from one class to another. Get it?
     
  4. Thai

    Thai Prius Neophyte

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    What class are you talking about? What class is the Prius in and what class do you think i "want" the Prius to be in? I sure hope that you're intelligent to understand the point of all this.
     
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    Options do not make an econobox, it is SIZE and COST.

    As a midsize car, the Prius does not fit into the subcompact category that econoboxes fall into. As a base $20k car, even for the model II versions, the cost does not put the Prius into the econobox category (looking at econoboxes as somewhere from $13k to $15k average cost). Again, we shouldn't redefine what econobox is, just because you don't feel you have the luxury you want for the price you paid.

    Vic
     
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    I specifically recall sitting in a Prius V in about December, seeing the $31.5k sticker price. It just didn't feel 'right' to me as in - things didn't quite fall into place.

    I know when I sit in a car, and everything is in its place - the armrests, the seats, controls, wheel - the primary controls. Vertical visiblity is so tight in the Prius, and the lower hanging rearview mirror with buttons was an issue. I knew it would block some line of sight.

    When I talked of refinement - the above is what I meant. When the vast majority of people sit in the car and it's above reproach.

    I'm not saying I'm thee expert, but that was my take on it. Like said, IMO, Prius is still a little rough around the edges.

    But if one digs it, great. Cannot argue with fuel economy though. Pruis is the real deal on fuel economy.

    I don't know what I could do to average less than 48 MPG in a Prius.
     
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    Like said earlier, Toyota Sunnyvale was running Good, Better, Best ads for Prius most of 2010.

    Best was the V and they usually had it listed for ~ 27.8k, 5 at that price. Quite a bit of car for that price. Hate to pay $31.5k like it is now, but $28k is pretty good, plain V, no ATP.

    btw, I doubt Thai paid anywhere near $35k before TTL.
     
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    I would say G3 Prius is not a Econobox, but a mid sized car. I have owned Escorts and Cavaliers in the past. I have also owned a Buick Regal GS. The ride and room inside is closer to the Regal. The leg room in front and back beats them all. And compared to what I consider todays ecoboxes ( Smart Car, Yaris, Aveo ) it is much bigger. I consider the G3 Prius a Mid Sized Car that emphasizes technology and fuel mileage (not horsepower or ride like my GS ).
    As for paying gobs of money for a level IV or V Prius, I would leave that to decision of the owner as to whether it was prudent. I once spent 10K to put 400 horses in a 79 nova 4 door. I could not justify the cost, but it was real fun to drive for 3 or 4 years and I don't regret it. I would love to drive a modern CTS-V. As for me and my G3 Prius IV. I got lucky and bought it used for 20K (4 months old with 13K miles). Love the Smart key, JBL/XM stereo and mileage.
    Great Econo-Techno car.
     
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    It's just a car... a transportation appliance. It carts our lazy or slow butts and some of our junk from one location to another.
     
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    ugo was an econobox. everything else is a luxury car by comparison.
     
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    No, i did not. :)
     
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    How do you like that Sienna? Is it a gas oinker or not too bad? I have thought about renting one of those for our next trip to have more space than the Prii gives us with all our junk :D

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    I love mine. It has about 45k miles...trouble free. It is quiet on the highway (much quieter than my bro's '08 Ody). Tons of room. Mileage is about 21 mpg combined. (EPA is 17/23.) My Sienna has the laser cruise, which is not nearly as good as DRCC on my Prius.
     
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    17/23, hmmm, that'd be a bit more gas than driving a Prius ;) I'll see what the wife has to say. We are always trying to save money for her company by driving the rental Prii. Would be nice to have that extra room on a long trip. Here's how packed our rental Prius was last week :pound: It was packed under both seats and in the compartment in the rear.

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    That's just crazy!!! Yeah, minivan is a lot more spacious. My Sienna is very comfortable on long trips, but it does float a bit on the highway.
     
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    I heard the 2011 handles better than the previous generation. Never drove one yet. Did sit in one before I picked out that Prii. Stylish as the commercials say :p We'll see, picking up the rental next week Friday evening then on the road for 2.5 weeks. I had one rental that I put a bit over 7k miles on. Fun fact: we put little smiley :) stickers under the grab handle on the drivers side on every rental we drive. That way we can find out if we have driven one before. That has happened a couple times now :D I'm waiting to see someone post on PC someday that they bought this used Prius and it has this funny smiley sticker under the drivers grab handle :eek: There are a few of them now.

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    The newer Siennas are a bit noisier on the highway and the interior materials are a bit cheaper. But, yes, it is "sportier" in handling...but this also means rougher ride on rough pavement.
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql-N3F1FhW4]YouTube - SWAGGER WAGON[/ame]
     
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    No. The Tercel was an econobox. And a very good one.
     
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    Funny video :D

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