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Drunken Drivers May Get Special Bright PINK...

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by Mystery Squid, Nov 16, 2005.

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  3. Yes, but only with guidelines/limitations.

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  4. No, it will create further problems (ie vandalism, etc) and invades privacy, and won't solve anythin

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  1. Mystery Squid

    Mystery Squid Junior Member

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  2. LaughingMan

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    Scarlet Letter, anyone?
     
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    OH NO! My gf might DUI just to get the pink plates! :eek:
     
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    Ideas like this make me embarassed for my fellow Americans. :(
     
  5. Mystery Squid

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    I voted Yes, but there should be some serious guidelines. One DUI shouldn't require a DUI plate for the rest of your life, however, maybe for one registration cycle, it would work. However I am concerned about the flip-side, whereas they will immediately attract all sorts of attention to themselves. For example, I can just see someone "massaging" circumstances such that they lead the DUI plate owner into an "accident" for their own monetary advantage. Not to mention the sheer amount of distracting ridicule by "vocal" drivers... Given, it should probably only be done for a repeat offender, and only for a limited amount of time.

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    I agree, except for the fact that adultery never (at least directly) killed anybody. If you get caught drinking and driving, you need to be punished in a way that will make you not ever do it again. I would think that having to explain your pink license plates to friends and relatives and getting pulled over by the cops all the time would be a pretty effective deterrent.

    One thing I would worry about would be at work. If you pull into work with pink plates on your car, is that grounds for your boss to fire you? Deny you a raise/promotion? How would you prove that was the cause?
     
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    Scary. :(

    It would be interesting if this was expanded to other crimes, like a plate for child offenders (maybe good there) or thieves.

    There's nothing to stop someone from simply using another car.
     
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    My sister is going to school in Ohio and has seen them - it doesn't seem to cause issues there. People would probably be more likely to stay clear of them.

    And I agree their should be limitations. I'm all for giving someone a 2nd chance (assuming no one was injured), but if with DUI, you should only ever have 1 chance. It baffles me that I just heard about a guy on the radio the other day that was arrested for his 10th DUI!! 2nd one should be mandatory jail time and that jail time should get longer and longer each time, plus the pink plate, although I think eventually, they should lose their license forever.
     
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    I have lived in ohio for a long time and have seen a handfull of those plates, seems to often DUI offenders are not made to use them but have restricted privilages. I think one should be enough as well... I would like to see Mayor Colemans wife or the Mayors car here in columbus with them (well I might be a little to mean). I have noticed most people in Ohio dont even know these plates exist, and it is not like they help me all that much but they do help out the police and I am all for helping the police prevent people from crashing in to me due to their drunken state, we have enough bad drivers here as it is.
    The plates in ohio are yellow with red writing - I like the one shown here http://cakili.image.pbase.com/image/24700949.jpg
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    Take it from me (policeman) these special plates do nothing except 1) make the lawmakers "feel" good about themselves for doing something, 2) make law abiders "feel" good about something being done. You cannot enforce a law that prevents Probable Cause or Resonable Suspicion as reasons fro stopping a car (read the 4th Amendment). I agree with the poster who said the majority of people don't know what these special plates mean (oohh, aren't those pretty, how can I buy one)

    DUI is an epidemic that kills more people every two months than were killed on 9/11. The only effective deterrent is 1) cultural- let's stop making alcohol the center of most social interaction, and 2) SEVERE punishment (a la 2 weeks in jail first offense, crush to cars driven by people on DUI suspension..etc We don't have the spinal fortitude (as a whole) to get a grip on this issue.
     
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    Massachusetts is debating creating a special plate that begins with the letters "DUI-xxxxxx" for repeat offenders.
     
  12. Mystery Squid

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    There's a word for that:


    "Liberalism"


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    In South Carolina, it is very easy to identify people who have been convicted of DUI.

    Every time you see a scruffy looking man with a huge beer belly riding a moped on country roads, you can be virtually guarenteed that he lost his license due to DUI violations.

    (You don't need a driver's license to ride a moped in South Carolina)
     
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    After reading, “We are very opposed to it . . . . American Civil Liberties Union . . .†I had no doubt I would be clicking one of the “Yes†buttons. That system of delving deep into a subject and forming a well thought-out position tends to work well for me about 99.999 percent of the time. :lol:
    It really comes as a shock when I agree with any ACLU position. Thankfully it is them who moved toward the center.

    Seeing that (as of this writing) 86% of the PriusChaters who responded to the poll also pressed a “Yes†button makes me think that the ACLU is once again way way out in left field.

    I would also like to see this type of “Scarlet Letter†license plate program extended to convicted reckless drivers. Their driver license and plate would restrict them to the far right lane on freeways, not allow them to change lanes to pass, and one mph over the posted speed limit would be reason enough for the police to make a stop (not that it isn't already). IF you are going to drive like a immature child, you should be treated like a child. Just because you are anonymous behind the wheel of a car doesn't give you the right to be an nice person. Removing that anonymity will often cure the problem . . . or at least make it easier to identify.
     
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    Special licence plates for drunks? NO licence plates would be far more effective.
     
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    This is a much better solution.
     
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    In today's paper, there is a proposal in Ohio to make PINK license plates for sex offenders...hmmm..now THAT has some promise. We could then teach our kids to run from cars with these fancy plates...

    Think about it, now when a sex offender wants to use a car, he/she will either steal plates or another car and we have one LESS way to catch the bad guy.

    These are all "feel good" solutions. They do NOT get to the crux of the issue. What is the crux? I'm glad I asked. We TOLERATE crime. We are scared to get TOUGH. We are scared to admit, for example, that pedophiles cannot be cured and, when the opportunity rises again, the pedophile will guage the risk of capture and PUNISHMENT against the pleasure he/she will get.

    Well, we need to guage all crime in this regard and make some real tough decisions.

    This will sound out of character for me but here goes....we need LESS property crime and DRUG offenders in jail and more VIOLENT offenders in there.

    The average sentence for murder is 7 yrs, and EVERYTHING, including child molestation, goes down from there. (That belongs in Factoids, huh!)
     
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    I don't remember seeing "lacking in spinal fortitude" in Webster's definition.

    1 : the quality or state of being liberal
    2 a often capitalized : a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity b : a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard c : a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties d capitalized : the principles and policies of a Liberal party