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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by taggart, Jul 27, 2011.

  1. richard schumacher

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    One wrinkle is that dealers seem to have trouble getting all the air out of the inverter coolant loop after doing the replacement. Press the service writer on this, and don't be too surprised if similar symptoms re-appear soon after the replacement. They do seem to get it right the 2nd time :_>
     
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    Thanks all, I'll request the HSD Chief Mechanic to do the change with me watching close by :p
    I've noticed if you start talking their language they tend to listen more.
     
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    All booked in for the 10th AUG. The recall was still running just like the United States, do you think the mechanic would give me the old inverter coolant pump?
     
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    Maybe, but probably not, since this falls under the LSC
     
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    Bleeding air out is so incredibly simple that people should make it part of their routine maintenance.
     
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    Probably not, since you are not paying for that repair.
     
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    Roger that. Also, does anyone know where to get the pump and hose to refill the transaxle fluid?
     
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    If you are referring to the inverter/transaxle coolant, you would add new fluid into the fluid reservoir next to the inverter.

    If you are referring to transaxle ATF, you really don't need a pump. What you need is a funnel with ~3 foot-long flexible tail, which you can make with a plastic funnel and vinyl hose of appropriate inner diameter. Tape the hose to the funnel using electrician's tape or something similar, to prevent fluid leakage.

    Place the funnel near the inverter and snake the tail down to the transaxle ATF fill hole on the side of the transaxle that faces the radiator. Then it is easy to add the new ATF WS, one quart at a time.

    I use a black plastic transmission oil funnel along with a flexible tail of appropriate length. This works great because the funnel is relatively long and stiff, hence it stays upright; yet the tail provides flexibility to route into the fill hole.
     
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    Update on my inverter pump replacement:

    I called Toyota yesterday to inquire about some possible help regarding the pump failure (thanks to Patrick for the idea). The guy I talked to on the phone was very nice and very willing to help.

    I explained my situation and asked of the LSC had been extended to my 2008. He jumped right in and started digging for information on his end. He asked for the VIN and located my car in his database. He also asked for specifics on the repair. He told me that I drove the car off of the lot on March 29, 2008. Correct. Out of warranty.

    He made sure that we were talking about the inverter coolant pump and not some other pump ("heat check pump" or something like that). After assuring him that is was in fact the inverter pump he went digging again. He really seemed to be working hard on this.

    After putting me on hold a couple of times, he came back and said the inverter pump was in fact covered on the 5 year/60,000 mile transmission warranty.

    He was a little surprised that the dealer did not know this. He started paperwork that was sent to the dealer. He gave me all of the information on it and said I should be hearing from the dealer's customer relations manager within 3 business days. He gave me their name and the case number in case they do not call. Refund coming.

    Wow. Excellent customer service. I'm still a little surprised this is covered under a "transmission" warranty, but I'm not complaining.

    Toyota earned a lot of points with me yesterday.
     
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    Thanks for the update, congratulations on obtaining that decision. Glad to hear that Toyota is interpreting that liberally.

    Since the the inverter coolant loop includes the transaxle, I suppose the inverter coolant pump could be deemed an ancillary transaxle part.
     
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    My '06 was recalled for inverter pump replacement at no charge last year. Yours should certainly be covered under warranty?
     
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    04-07 was a recall to replace bad pumps with a redesigned version. Failures in 08-09 are powertrain warranty only, 5/60. Also, after having recall work performed for an 04-07, coverage against failure in those becomes 1 year, unlimited miles.
     
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    Routine maintenance? Why would air routinely get into the coolant loop?
     
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    Normally it should not, but I believe the dealerships may be doing a hit or miss bleed procedure. That was the case with my pump change, I checked it a few days later and there was still air in the system. :D