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Some people just shouldn't be allowed to have offspring

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by TimBikes, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. bisco

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    dinks. (double income no kids):p
     
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  2. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

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    Put them in the cage with the boys.
     
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    OHHHHH Dana White is gonna be pissed....
     
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    If this were a martial arts contest instead of wrestling, and had some name other than the sleazy appellation "fight cage" (and was conducted on open mats instead of in a cage, which serves no purpose whatsoever beyond giving the spectacle a machismo appeal), there would be no outcry whatsoever. Google kids karate and other martial arts references for youth and the world is full of events whose only age restriction is that participants be less than 18 years old - there is no minimum age specified (and the pictures and videos clearly depict kids 7, 8, 9 years old).

    Wrestling, no matter how skillfully performed, looks undignified and brutal (even when it isn't brutal). Martial arts done well looks like expertly choreographed ballet. But other than that kind of superficial appearance I don't see any difference between junior martial arts and these wrestling contests: they are both exhibitions of skill WITHOUT the element of violence.
     
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    Except for the fact that its in a BAR, with a bunch of drunks egging it on, that is a bit of a difference from a martial arts match or true wrestling contest.
     
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    boys wrestling in a padded area as opposed to boys wrestling in the house where they can smash their heads against a brick wall or furniture.

    it it was is a poor choice in location
     
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    I agree with airportkid. This video is no big deal.

    I've been taking Brazilian Jiu Jitsu classes for about 3 months, so I sort of know a little about grappling, and the reporters are blowing things out of proportion.

    First, it's stated that it was a grappling match: no striking. That's an important detail. The chance for injury in Jiu Jitsu doesn't really come until you get choked or put in a joint lock. At that point, you tap, or the ref calls the match if you pass out.

    It's very rare that the loser wouldn't be able to walk away from the match completely fine, or with a sore elbow or knee at worst. It's not like if you got kicked in the head and had the possibility for a contusion or something.

    Because of that, it's silly to note things about how the kids weren't wearing headgear. The only reason jitz guys wear headgear is if they're worried about injury to their ears (califlour ear). You don't usually see headgear in practice, and you almost never see it in competition.

    About the only thing that's even mildly objectionable about the situation is that the kids are in a bar. Even then, I don't really care.

    In fact, I currently hope my kids will get into the sport.
     
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    I wonder if the philosophical conjectures would hold up if the situation actually involved your own kids. Thoughts that come to mind:

    1) If blood is drawn, does the crowd cheer or demand the fight stop?

    2) Is the "winner" decided by incapacitating the opponent or by scoring?

    3) Is the winner celebrated because he kicked "mule"?

    4) Do they shake hands when it is over or vow revenge?

    Kids are easily affected by the context that a one-on-one competition occurs. Violence is not just the physical actions, it's also the mental desire to hurt someone. Kids certainly will pick up on the difference even if the adults declare it's not there.