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Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by Stormz, Oct 14, 2011.

  1. Stormz

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    I had researched into this a bit. I know I would need to replace the stock battery with a Yellowtop one, and that the wiring is slightly different to most other cars.

    I had discounted a car pc as too expensive, and was going to order this from Chinavasion (same cpu as iPhone):
    Road Emperor - In Dash Car DVD With 3G Internet (2DIN GPS DVB-T)

    But THEN.... usbseawolf posts about a pc he just installed for someone... and got me thinking about it again.

    So, could anyone please collate info on what is needed and how to wire (inc the possibility of still using the steering wheel control for tracks and volume?) this:
    Xenarc 705TSV 7" Car PC Touchscreen VGA LCD Monitor | eBay

    I have found the seller to be very helpful. Amongst the info he has provided is:
    "Tapping the switched 12V+ from the cigarette lighter is quite alright for the ignition switch signal. What is advised against is using that 12V+ source for the main 12V+ power line. The ignition switch signal does not have to provide much current. If you're familiar with car audio components, the ignition lead is very similar to the "remote" lead found on a car audio amplifier." (normally you can't do the cig lighter connection in other cars... but the Prius is special :) ).

    Thoughts:
    - the dvd unit would take the place of the JBL. I`m wondering if I leave the JBL there if I install a carputer, and have the carputer touch-screen on the dash or somewhere. Less hassle taking the car apart.... just have some sort of usb extender unit in the stealth tray, to plug usb things into.
    - kids can play MAME on the carputer with a couple of logitech wireless (xbox) joypads (gamepad F710). Can also get a wireless keyboard.
    - downside is the cost of the damn carputer touchscreens.

    Any info or opinions appreciated.
     
  2. voltic

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    If you want to use the steering wheel controls, you might as well stock with the factory head unit. You more than likely have an Aux input anyway. What the seller has said about the cigarette power is true. If you try to power the PC from it, you're asking for melted wiring, but it will work fine for your ignition/remote wire. The PC itself you should run directly from the battery terminal, and can be grounded anywhere to the body of the car close to the actual PC. I don't see why you need a yellowtop battery though. Any good power supply is going to have a startup/shutdown controller with a power cut feature to save your battery anyway. As for your touchscreen, yes it's expensive but you get what you pay for. Xenarc and Lilliput are the two most used and documented brands in the CarPC world and I recommend you stick with them to avoid headaches later. I can't really help you further with anything Prius specific because I haven't started my own build yet, but if you have other questions, hit me up. Also, check out mp3car.com forums for tons of CarPC info.
     
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    Also, a slimline USB DVD player in the glove compartment would give you easy access to DVD playing for the kids. Just remember video within view of the driver is illegal, so be prepared to switch to something else at short notice. :)
     
  4. Jeremy Harris

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    If you want to use the steering wheel controls then you need to make an interface. This isn't hard, if you're reasonably handy with electronics, as the buttons just switch a resistor each, so all that's needed is a means of measuring the resistance and converting this to a signal the carputer can understand. If it were me, then I'd use a simple microcontroller with an analogue input to measure the steering wheel control signal and output a serial data stream to the carputer. I wouldn't be surprised if someone already makes such a thing, as the majority of cars use resistive switching for steering wheel control signalling.

    As for power, the easy way is to just tap into the existing head unit power feed. The simple way to do this would be to buy a Toyota harness adapter (the Prius uses the same head unit connectors as the Camry and Rav 4, plus a few other recent models). You could pretty much get every connection you needed by getting one of these and butchering it for the connectors.
     
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    Not advisable for a CarPC power supply. The wire gauge to a factory head unit or even nav head unit is almost never sufficient to safely power a PC, especially if the LCD is going to be wired to the PC's secondary power headers.
     
  7. Jeremy Harris

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    Heck, how much power do you need for chrisakes? There is around 240W available via the standard loom at that point, which is plenty for any reasonably modern carputer, or even an old one using pretty power hungry technology. If it isn't, then getting all that heat out of such a small box tucked in the dash is going to be a real challenge!

    The LCD only needs around 5W, BTW, so is negligible in terms of overall power consumption. A decent carputer based around the dual core Atom might use around 4 or 5W, leaving masses of spare power capability for decent amps and peripherals.

    In essence all these Chinese DVD/Nav units are just carputers anyway, albeit using pocket PC technology rather than PC technology. There's little to choose between the two in terms of power consumption now, with some of the newer small form factor PC boards being so frugal in terms of power demand.