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Prius v Wagon Plugin Arrives This Fall

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by evnow, Feb 18, 2012.

  1. evnow

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    Not seen this information before.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/automobiles/electric-cars-future-models.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all



    If it gets about 20 miles of EV range, this will be a top conder for me to replace our remaining ICE as well.
     
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    That is interesting...not sure how accurate, but you'd think they could cram a bigger battery pack in there. I've felt like a 20 mile range is a sweet spot for some time, but some engineers and marketing experts seem to think otherwise.
     
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    Oh-Oh, yet another reason for me to cancel my PIP order. I'm so-o-o confused! :confused:

    Of course, I'd rather have it in a nicer riding Venza or Highlander....
     
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    I can understand why Toyota might want to keep mum on this - with PIP coming out soon they don't people to wait.

    But this would be a very natural thing to do (I've said elsewhere they should have brought the wagon PIP together with liftgate PIP).

    It would indeed be interesting to see what range it will have - since it definitely has more space to work with.

    2012 second half will be an exciting time for plugins - Model S, Energi, Mitsu SUV PHEV and now this.
     
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    "...travel just 15 miles on battery juice alone — one-third the Volt’s
    range," is a ho-hummer. :confused:

    At 30 miles, I'd be paying serious attention. :rockon:

    The V being a larger car, you'd think there'd be room for a larger
    battery/batteries. If there are other limiting constraints (other than
    expense), I'd appreciate hearing about them. :noidea:

    Is there a reason that Mother Toyota does not want to compete
    head-to-head with the Volt on pure EV range? :fencing:
     
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    One reason would be that the V is already pretty darn heavy requiring all new system just for handling and suspension. Dropping in a 200lb battery to haul around could be an issue and would clearly impact cargo capacity (weight wise).

    I can't think of any engineering constraints other than that.
     
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    All I can say is freaking awesome. I might actually get that. I would rather it did better in EV more than the PiP. Just a tad more acceleration in all EV would make me happy. My other vehicle is quite spritely and I find the the acceleration of the PiP in all EV to be too slow.

    I wish wish wish they would have factory installed roof rails though also. So much nicer than after market bars.
     
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    Toyota's approach to offering a variety of choices has been an obvious endorsement to how seriously they are taking the issue of traditional vehicle replacement.

    They've even had a few models not stir much interest along the way, yet they keep trying. Overall, that's worked great. The technology is refined each step of the way.

    Prius v is already well suited to offer a plug. So, the thought of doing that this fall isn't too far of a stretch... especially considering what happens in the meantime. With model of plug-in about to hit our shores next week, we'll have a good feel for market acceptance by then.
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    I like it, would be a great replacement for my wife's Mariner hybrid.
     
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    Toyota took hybrids very seriously, but they were not doing that well except with the prius. That is why they made it a sub brand not just a singular vehicle. I am quite happy they did. I just wish they would cater to exactly what I want :) If they do make this though I will be extremely tempted to buy it. Heck maybe I could just end up with that an an EV at some future point.
     
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    ggood and others,

    You know I can't comment on future product news, but here's what I will say, we have not announced any plans for a Prius v Plug-in (at least not in the US). My advice is to not cancel your PiP order.

    Best,
    Erica Gartsbeyn
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    Well I don't have a PiP order to cancel. I am more likely to purchase a different make of car then. It is a shame because if they made this wow I would be very excited.
     
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    I would surprised if there was a Prius v PHV especially since Toyota doesn't know what the uptake on the v is and whether it's worth the extra development cost. My guess is maybe with the 2nd Gen Prius v.
     
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    I don't really need a bigger Prius, so no problem there Erica. What I want is a flat loading plug in hybrid with Camry like ride and seat comfort. The harsh ride of the Prius on bad city streets, and the lack of comfort compared to other $40K cars, is still giving me pause. The Ford Energi might be a good candidate, but for my wife's threat that her father's chain smoking ghost will haunt us if we get a Ford! With so many options on the horizon, and no doubt better batteries and range just around the corner, it's tough to go all in on a $40K car. Here's hoping for a good lease option on the PIP!
     
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    Well, there are a number of tools to figure out if there is a demand for Prius v plugin or not. They don't have to wait for years of v sales numbers to tell them that.

    The market is moving rapidly - either Toyota hops on the train or is left behind.

    BTW, I'd request Toyota to send a correction request to NYT if the article is not correct.
     
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    Your non-comment speaks volumes.

    If you can't comment on future product news, how about a personal opinion on the accuracy of The NY Times automotive reporting?
     
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    Maybe because they don't want to put a battery in that's so heavy and expensive, it would mess up the works, or change to a chassis that's not worth having as a car.

    I don't think the battery technology allows 35 mile range in PHV unless cost goes through the roof. Really tough with PHV, cause toting around 2 'engines'.
     
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    Don't mean to be a jerk, but there's so much hype about all the new hybrid and plug-in cars coming out, but to date, the reality is ...

    Prius outsells all other advanced technology cars combined. All the announced and upcoming cars are just that, announced and upcoming. I think Toyota will continue to be right in the thick of selling the largest number of advanced tech cars.
     
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    I wasn't talking about demand for the Prius v PHV, I was talking about demand for the regular Prius v.

    There needs to be sales volume on the donor vehicle first (i.e. the regular one) before they'll spin off variants