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Weekend Rental of Plug in Prius

Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by janie, Mar 16, 2012.

  1. janie

    janie 2016 Prius 3 Touring

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    I am still working on deciding if I am going to buy the pip that I have on order. . . so I found that the local Toyota dealership has a brand new advanced model plug in for rent- and I am renting it this weekend to help me with the decision . . .
     
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  2. HillCountryEVer

    HillCountryEVer New Member

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    Very cool! What dealership is it?
     
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    Wow, I am surprised they would rent out that Vehicle.
     
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    how much did it cost. I am thinking of
    doing the same..
     
  5. janie

    janie 2016 Prius 3 Touring

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    They only have one in their rental fleet.
    99 per day
    Rignt now I'm trying out charging it while I am working at office.
     
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    janie 2016 Prius 3 Touring

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    Day One of Rental:

    Today I drove about 120 miles, and had approximately about 15 miles of EV, and averaged about 51 mpg, with rainy/windy weather, a couple of miles of hills. I think normally in this weather I would have averaged about 44 mpg in my current Prius.

    Initially I felt like I did not like the feel of the Softec, but it seemed to hold up well with all the wet/rain that came in with doors opening.

    The ride seemed very quiet, more quiet than my current Prius. One of my friends who has a cochlear implant said that is the first time he has ridden in a car where he could actually have a conversation. Typically the background/road noise makes it so he cannot hear clearly.

    A friend of mine whose company recently traded out her 08 Prius for a Ford Fusion, said the comfort of the Plug in Prius was much better than her current company car.

    I am still not sure if the Plug in Prius works for my current lifestyle and amount of driving (Lots of long distance driving is on the weekends, and during the work week, more short trips). It is a bit difficult to get places where I have time and can charge the car.

    Two more days of rental before I return the car, and should have a better idea by then if I will purchase the Plug in that I have on order.
     
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    Thanks for sharing your thoughts, ideas..
     
  8. rogerv

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    Janie,
    If you can charge the car at night at home, and make most of your short trips using EV, to me that sounds like the best use of the car as designed. Then on weekends, don't worry about charging it if you are away from home. My plan is to take advantage of EV around town, and charge every night. But I don't worry if I drive enough locally to have to switch to ECO mode, or if I head out on the freeway on a longer trip; it's still getting fantastic mileage. I don't even plan to take the charging unit with me.
     
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  9. DianneWhitmire

    DianneWhitmire High PRIUStess

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    Our TRAC rental arrives this next week. It's a silver base model. We are also renting it out at $99 a day.
     
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    No offense intended but if you have to ask, you probably can't afford it.
     
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    Sounds like PiP would favor short commutes like 15 miles or so, but not quite so much benefit for long trips all the time.

    I used to rent 2010/11 Prius a lot for a day, drive about 150 miles and indicate anywhere from 53 to 56 when returning. Never got an accurate # on small fillup sample. Now I know gage is 5 or 6% optimistic. Minor bummer.
     
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    Day #2 of Rental:

    After a complete charge during the night, I went on a 6 mile trip, where I averaged 165 mpg for the consumption.

    Then I took a longer journey mostly freeway, trying to get to a public charging station at a mall, which was along the journey to my destination. But alas, the charging stations were being used by Leafs. I tried to get to a nearby library for their charging station, but the roads were blocked due to a city festival. The other nearby stations were a Nissan Dealer and a Chevrolet Dealer. But then a few more miles away, there was a Walgreens with a charging station :) it took 81 minutes to fully charge up the PiP. When I started the PiP, it had 12.7 for the EV range.

    Then, I went to my destination which was 7.6 miles, and at the end of the trip, it said Consumption 620 mpg??? I am not sure if that was correct, but it was totally EV mode, since I had just finished charging up.

    Then another journey of 35 miles at 59 mpg, and overall 55 mpg for the 240 miles I have driven so far. Now it is charging again for the night.

    Tomorrow will be the last day of the rental. I should have more data to make my decision.

    *rogerv - thanks for your input- sometimes I can get a bit fanatical about trying to get the best mileage possible at all times, but would need to be able to let that go if I get the plug in prius . . .
     
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  13. John in LB

    John in LB Life is good

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    I agree with Roger's comments:

    We use the car for either short stints about town or longer runs on highway/freeway. We plug the car in every time we come to the house - so, that could mean 2 or 3 charges in a single day.

    At this point, we don't even bother putting the cable back in the car - I think I want to set up a permanent plug in station; but have not found it at the right price point (currently @ ~$1000). I would do it for a couple of hundred bucks; and I am able to self-install.

    Given my experience, my only recommendation to Toyota would be that the driving distance for EV mode should be longer (say 25-30 miles). I understand what they did and why they did it (weight, space, costs); however, from a consumer point of view, I would like to get more bang out of the "hassle" for plugging it in... My hassle factor is also worth something and should have biased the answer to a larger Li+ battery.

    I believe one opportunity for this is to delete the 12V battery and replace the occupied space with more Li+ battery cells - the functionality of the 12V Battery can certainly be taken over by the Li+ battery.

    Another factor to consider is that the plug in is 275 lbs heavier than my '06 Prius. While this car feels more substantial (we think it drives better / quieter than the '06), it also means more energy consumption / worse acceleration than before. At a technical level, I would suggest the car go on a weight diet to bring that weight back down (e.g., lighter steel alloys).

    A key reason for buying the new Plug-in is because of how reliable / trouble free the '06 Prius was for us. It gave us confidence that the product would blend in easily into our lifestyle (and not become a center of attention onto itself...)

    Based on the little data we have so far: The car is a winner - I would not hesitate to recommend it to anyone!
     
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    I agree with all three of these comments...
     
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    Peef has started a business that upgrades the Leaf power cord so that it works on either 120 or 220 volt outlets. I believe it will work for both the Leaf and the Volt. I wonder if he offers it (or will soon) for the PIP. It is only $238 + something extra for shipping and something more for the 220 volt pigtail, IIRC. (Forgot to add that you have to send in a Leaf power cord for upgrade, though.)

    Here's a link: http://evseupgrade.com/
     
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    Wow, ok. FYI: I always ask the price for anythIng I buy, just common sense...
     
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  18. drinnovation

    drinnovation EREV for EVER!

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    With a few $ in parts you can make a decent install for your EVSE which make plug in real easy, and still easy to take down. Takes me seconds to "plug in to charge", and only 30seconds to take my unit down when I need it to charge on the road. Takes a long time to recover the 1K for a 240v install. I'm waiting for EVSEs to drop in price (its about 40$ in raw materials but $250 in "off the shelf part", so I expect to see < $200 units in 2 years. I may just build my own using openEVSE guidelines). FYI The EVSEupgrade is 240 to UPGRADE a unit, > $950 to get a new one

    Multiple mounting ideas in this thread over at gm-volt.com

    L2 charger ceiling mount
     
  19. rogerv

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    You don't think it is worth comparing rental prices? I think that is what the question was about.....:cool:
     
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    it is a rental not a purchase

    Are you buying one?
    I am probably the original "cheepskate charlie" .
    I was in the market for the PIP and I didn't like having to choose to put down a $500 deposit on a PIP sight unseen NO TEST drive and a lot of unknowns and wait 4 months but I did it.
    If I could have gotten a PIP rental for a weekend , I would have paid dearly for the chance.
    On pretty much anything else I am the ultimate bargain shopper.
    And I did say no offense intended.
    so again , no offense intended.