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$21,999 for the Kia hybrid? Hmmm I'd be tempted! But Kia and Hyundai hybrid performance is really not all great. Toyota's value will hold up but the Kia price may offset a lower value later.

 

I believe the drivetrain of the KOH and HSH are the same. I'd pass on both.

Take a look at 2011 Hyundai Sonata Hybrid vs 2012 Toyota Camry Hybrid XLE vs 2012 Volkswagen Passat TDI SE Comparison - Motor Trend and 2011 Kia Optima Hybrid Full Test.

If you're going to compare the KOH vs. something, I think it should be the '12 HyCam.

 

Does the Kia also have the lifetime battery warranty? If so, that's a serious consideration.

 

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From Hyundai: Lifetime Warranty for 2012 Sonata Hybrid Batteries; Ten-Speed Automatic Transmission in Development, it seems like it'd cover only the '12 HSH, not the '11 or '12 KOH.

I didn't see any mention of lifetime HV battery warranty at http://www.kia.com/#/warranty nor the booklet I downloaded, unlike the bottom of http://www.hyundaiusa.com/assurance/america-best-warranty.aspx.

OP might also be interested in http://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy...n-4-which-car-gets-the-best-fuel-economy.html. Not sure how similar the route was to http://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/fuel-sipper-smackdown-2.html.

FWIW, if my Prius were stolen or totaled tomorrow, it'd mostly likely be replaced w/a Gen 3 Prius or a '12 HyCam.

 

You get what you pay for! I'd stick with the Prius, you might also look at the C if a smaller car is of use to you.

 

Go for the Prius, you can't go wrong there.

In 06, we had a similar choice between a Kia Sedona and Sennia. The Sedona was two grand less and the Toy dealer was not moving on the Sennia. So naturally we went with the Sedona. Though it was a great van, I know if we had gotten the Sennia we would still have it today. I felt uneasy owning the Kia as it was very difficult to get warranty work done on it. Had I not kept really good service records, I may not have gotten a complete oil seal problem covered (read big $$$$).

 

The discounts that people get on a Kia or Hyundai will be washed away when time comes to sell the car. Just imagine how you would feel if your current Prius is worth 5 grand less today.

Also their Hybrid technology is not proven yet IMO. Did you check their real world MPG numbers vs EPA estimates?

If I were you I would go with a 3rd gen Prius.

 

I am not sure how long the Kia or Hyundai have been made, but you might want to price out all three with similar options that you are looking at new to compare resale value. That might help you with your decision. Most of the dealers around here use KBB. Good luck with your choice!

 

Go to Galves: Better than Kelley Blue Book for used car values! to get the most accurate information for your trade. Dealers use Galves not KBB or edmunds or anything else. I'm pretty sure 2011 Kia has the lifetime battery warranty but you can double check here http://www.kia.com/content/media/en/manuals/2011_warranty.pdf. Hope this helps, good luck!

 

The Blake Griffin car is a very stylish car. Decisions, decisions.

Was looking at different reviews, and a lot of ppl are reporting below epa mpg. One driver claims that you have to hypermile just to get 40 mpg.

 

I drive mine like I drove my Jeep and get 50 no problem. I probably drive a 60/40 split city/highway. If you drive more city you might get more mpg. I cruise at about 70 on the highway, that seems to be the happy cruising speed. If I start to get up near 80 or more then the mpgs go down. But if you drive normal then there is no reason not to get close to or at 50mpg.

 

I found no occurance of the word/fragment life in there.

 

test drive the camry hybrid


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Get a 2013 Lexus GS.

 

Are we talking about the prius or optima here? I was talking about the optima.

 

No optima gets 50 MPG or even close.

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