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Juicing veggies and fruits without eating the pulp is wasteful...

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by burritos, May 13, 2012.

  1. burritos

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    Just got a breville juicer. The thing could juice my arm if I my taste was for masochistic cannibalism. So for my virgin juice: tomato, lemon, celery, carrots, lettuce, apples, oranges, strawberries and red bell pepper. Not bad, and I'm sure highly nutritious. The pulp, I composted. Other people were using the kitchen, but I thought about it. What a waste of food. Never, again. Next time it will either be mixed with rice, pancake, or some type of egg fritter. I'm all for the vitamins, minerals, and phytonutrients. But for juice crusaders who chuck the pulp, that's kind of a selfish wasteful thing, no?
     
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    Welcome fellow juicer. I have had my breville for almost 2 years. Check out u tube they have lots of demos and recipes. I have been fond of addinf ginger root or cilantro to my mixes, just experiment. The breville is so easy to clean. cheers.
     
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    Only if you consider humans only. Composting it is a good way to get it back into the cycle of producing more food. Feeding it to the pigs or chickens or crows would probably be better, but only slightly. Landfilling it or putting it down the drain, would be the real waste.

    {ETA: of course, it is all the fiber, which you would probably be better off if you ate}
     
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    Juice is not so great.Commercial blenders like Vitamix or Blendtec are the current rage.
    You get all the fiber and the cell wall is pulverized to yield max nutrients.
    Eat the pulp and your stomach is fuller and your digestive health is tip top.
    Green smoothies are fruit with greens that taste only like fruit.
    Great deal on Blendtec on Ebay recently.Borders Books used blenders sold for $300 ,new was $1400
     
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    I've been using Vitamix for the last 2 years. Our household has a lot of uneaten fruit. I usually freeze and make smoothies for myself.

    However, I watched the movie, [ame="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1227378/"]Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead (2010) - IMDb@@AMEPARAM@@http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTQyNDY1NDU0NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjY2ODM2NA@@._V1._SX91_SY140_.jpg@@AMEPARAM@@BMTQyNDY1NDU0NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjY2ODM2NA@@@@AMEPARAM@@SX91@@AMEPARAM@@SY140[/ame] and bought into the message of juicing. You can overload your system with plant nutrients more so than any GMC multivitamin and arguably more than any smoothie. Sure you can blend a carot/apple/strawberries/etc... But as a smoothie, you are still taking in the whole volume of fruit/veggie. Juicing while not extracting all the nutrients per fruit, I suspect you can get a lot more of the soluble phyto-nutrients.
     
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    Many years ago I had a Vitamix. (It stayed with the house, along with nearly all my possessions, when I moved to Mexico close to 15 years ago.) Very soon after buying it I made "whole" juice by including everything. It tasted so awful that I never tried it again. We're just not meant to eat the rind and the seeds, etc., all ground up together.

    However, if you're talking about squeezing out the juice and throwing away the edible solid portion of fruits and veggies, then you're throwing away food value. Weight Watchers lets you eat all the fruit and (most) vegetables you want, but juices count against your total allowed "points" for the day. That's because whole fruits and veggies (excluding the non-edible parts that Vitamix wanted people to grind up and eat) are more filling and nutritious than the juice alone, and because you're likely to consume far more calories before you feel full on juice than on whole foods.

    Generally speaking, juice is far less healthy than the fruit or veggie it was extracted from.

    Some people think that a juice diet will "cleanse" their intestines. But the intestines need solid food going through them for optimum health
     
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    Doesn't it depend on what you juice? If you juice mainly fruits, you'll be getting too much sugar on top of the nutrients(which of course would be better than most commercially processed foods). But if you juice mainly green leafies, it's arguable you could get a lot more green nutrients than you could ever eat. The gorilla's diet entails something like 20 lb of leafy plants daily(plus insects). That's just not humanly doable. We'd be eating and crapping all day. Juicing greens probably is a realistic alternative to get those green nutrients.
     
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    Irony of ironies . . . . dr. Oz says, "don't drink your carbs" . . . . so yea . . . . maybe consider eating the pulp and tossing the juice.
    ;)
     
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    I agree with that. The question is, how about drinking your green leafies? The truth is, I'm not going to power down 3 cucumbers/head of lettuce/spinach/tomatoes/celery every day or every other day. So is juicing this better than nothing?
     
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    We are not gorillas and we do not have the same nutritional needs as gorillas. Thus the comparison is not valid.

    I think that extreme is just as mistaken as the other. Eat the whole food (minus the non-digestible parts like the rind).

    On a normal day I eat about a quart of salad. Typically that's the first course of my lunch. With supper I eat some veggies, probably 5 times as much as most Americans would consider a "serving." The typical side of vegetables in a restaurant is about 1/5 of my supper veggie serving.
     
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    They may not be identical true, but if an individual human were exported out of modern day society and left to eat what was found in the forest, I doubt 3 meals of a handful of edible leaves and a fruit serving would be anywhere near adequate.
    Good for you and if everyone ate like you, there'd be less disease and obesity everywhere. When I eat a bowlful of cabbage or green leafies, the amount of gas I get is borderline debilitating for about an hour. So while my goal is to eat as much green leafies(for the nutritional content, not because I like it) as possible, it's quite unpleasant.
     
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    If you are eating so much green leafies that you are getting unpleasant reactions, that means you are eating too much. Which nutrients do you feel you are not getting enough of? Perhaps there is a better option for those nutrients.
     
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    Dude, you are causing Global Warming.
    Try Beano.
    Seriously though.
    If you juice too much carrots and kale you could risk vitamin A OD.
     
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    Eating too many veggies has other down sides. Here's a post i did about 4 years ago:


    http://priuschat.com/forums/freds-h...cise-eat-right-then-go-straight-hospital.html

    I was the healthiest person in the E.R.
    (shaking head)
    I'll bet that was Kalispell's 1st organic stone.
    .
     
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    I'm deficient in green leafy veggies.