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Nightmare Problems With Brakes on 2007 Prius

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by demichae, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. demichae

    demichae Junior Member

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    So my auxiliary battery started dying and I had to jump start it when it was dead. One dark morning I reversed the cables on my wife's car when jumping it. The portion on the Prius that I had hooked up the cables to started glowing. I unhooked them, and when I got inside my car I noticed several warning lights on (ABS, etc). Once I got the car started I drove to work, but the brakes were no longer working correctly, and if I hit them hard they would lock up and I would skid, with tons of white smoke from the tires. I took the car to Toyota, but they wanted $550 to replace the auxiliary battery and run a diagnosis. They said they could not run any computer tests as the car's auxiliary batter was too low.
    So I ordered the battery off of Amazon. In the meantime, the brakes wore down to metal on metal on the front driver's side. I took the car to Firestone and they wanted $850 to replace the pad, rotor, and caliber, which they said was stuck. I then put the new auxiliary battery in the car myself (it was relatively easy) and took it to Toyota. Initially I was told it would be a $250 charge to run a diagnosis. They then said the ABS relay needed to be replaced for a reasonable $68.45. After waiting two days for the part to come in, I then get informed that the skid control ECU needs to be replaced, at a cost of $1,984.44, at which point they will "recheck as necessary with diagnosis." After doing some googling, there is some indication that the problem might not be the skid control ECU. I don't want to pay $2,300 and then have them say other things are wrong. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
     
  2. Patrick Wong

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    I've seen several posts from Prius owners who had a botched jumpstart as you did. If they are lucky, the fusible link located within the main relay/fuse box next to the inverter needs to be replaced as well as a few fuses. The fusible link is around 5" long and housed in a clear and white plastic box. This repair will typically cost in the mid-hundreds as the relay/fuse box has to be removed to access and remove the fusible link.

    If they are unlucky then the inverter is blown and has to be replaced, which is a very healthy four-digit repair.

    I have not ever heard of an ECU needing to be replaced as a result of the botched jumpstart. Typically the ECU power lines will be equipped with diodes to prevent damage in the event of reversed polarity on the 12V bus.

    I also have not previously heard of a situation where, after the botched jumpstart, the owner was able to make the Prius READY and travel any distance, so your situation appears to be unique. What was the glowing "portion"; was that the main relay/fuse box?

    If you question the skid control ECU diagnosis then you may want to have the car towed to another Toyota dealer for diagnosis. Good luck.
     
  3. PriusCamper

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    Sounds like your car is having one problem on top of the other and they are getting worse and worse the more you avoid fixing each problem before driving the car again... So far everyone who's looking at your car is treating the symptoms not the cause. Did you tell any of them about your mishap with the jump start? That's where the root of the problem is... Unless you got lucky and only have a blown fuse you're in deep for expensive repairs. Learn more here: Reversed polarity jump start | PriusChat
     
  4. demichae

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    Thanks Patrick and PriusCamper. Yes, my car was able to start after I jumped it incorrectly, and it ran well until the front left break was metal to metal (other than going into a full skid if I hit the breaks hard...I relied on that "B" selection on the transmission to slow it down). I did tell the Toyota dealer about how this all happened, so I hope they considered the fuses/inverter possibility. I know I must look like an idiot, but in my defense, the "-" sign on my wife's battery has a small scratch on it, perpendicular to the negative sign, making it look like a positive sign. It was dark when I was doing it and I didn't catch it. Apparently this will be a very, very costly mistake.
     
  5. PriusCamper

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    Maybe not... Right now it's just weird... What's gas mileage like? Is your inverter working normally? Also, when a Prius is unable to generate electricity thru braking the car has symptoms similar to yours. That your brakes are metal on metal gives the impression that you've been driving the car in this broken state for a while, but maybe I'm jumping to conclusions? :)
     
  6. demichae

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    MPG remained around 40 mpg. I did unfortunately drive it for awhile, as I had to order a battery, and I took it in multiple times to various places. The people at Firestone (who did not know what they were doing) said the car was only braking using the front driver's side brakes. There were a few other issues...the driver's side electric window button no longer has the function where you can push it once and have it automatically go down all the way, and the disc changer beeps several times when the car starts and does not work (I cannot even eject the discs). I'm just worried that I'll pay $2,300 and then they'll tell me it's not the skid control ECU after all.
     
  7. PriusCamper

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    Window control reprogramming has to be done after you reconnect the battery. To reprogram hold the button down the whole time the window moves, then pull the button up the whole time it moves and that should do it! You might be able to get a used skid control unit at half the price via: autobeyours.com As for additional problems the Toyota dealer needs to confirm that there is no additional damages done to the inverter or circuitry by the bad jump start before, not after, you spend $2k on the brake repair...