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Battery Cooling Fan Constantly Runs Every Highway Trip - Normal?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by prominence, Aug 25, 2012.

  1. prominence

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    Hi friends,

    I am wondering if anyone finds this odd. I live in Columbus, OH. Weather has been 70-85 degrees lately, not much humidity. The past week I have noticed my battery cooling fan running constantly on all highway trips - 20 mile one-way trips going 65-70MPH.

    The performance of the battery doesn't seem be degraded, but it SEEMS like the battery is hopping more between charging cycle [or whatever you would call it - where you watch the instantaneous MPG on the highway drop down for 10 seconds to 40-50, then back up to 60-70].

    The car is a 2011 Prius III. It did not run like this earlier in the summer in the same weather conditions, I would hear the fan maybe once every few weeks in hot 90 degree weather. Now I hear it constantly. This is my first summer owning the Prius so this may be normal, but I wanted to double check with you all if this is a sign of pre-mature traction battery death or something.

    Hearing the constant buzz of the fan in the back is also quite annoying (sounds like a rear window is rolled down) when you want to just have silence inside the cabin.
     
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    it doesn't sound right, but i don't have an answer for you on a newer car like yours. could anything have clogged it? animal fur, children, etc.? i never hear mine. (but that doesn't mean it's not running.)
     
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    I am single and don't have a roommate. I have another person in my car maybe once every few weeks. And no animals in the car.
     
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    could be that the fan is defective and running normally but making noise so you think it's on more. usually, they are very quiet.
     
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    The faster the car goes, the louder the fan gets. E.G. the Fan is louder at 70MPH than 50MPH. Is that normal? I assumed it was under the logic of "the battery is working harder at higher MPH so it must need more cooling."
     
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    unfortunately, there is no way to know what the fan is doing unless you have a scangauge. hopefully, someone else with more knowledge will chime in here. i thought it was based on battery temp alone, so running your a/c on high should slow it down or stop it. still it sounds as if something is caught in it (baseball card:p) or a bad bearing perhaps.
     
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    I never hear my fan running on my 2011. I've done winter driving, summer heat (99F with A/C set on 77F), creeping through freeway congestion, long uphills to the Blue Ridge, and 75 mph freeway cruising. Never any fan noise.

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    Are you sure it's the battery fan? Next time you hear it, try immediately slowing way down to 10 mph if possible. The fan should still run for a while if it's a battery heat problem. If you don't hear the fan noise, maybe it's a drive train noise or something.

    At fast highway speeds, I don't think the battery is drained and refilled much more than at normal speeds. And that would be what would heat the battery up.
     
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    It's definitely the fan. It will run at low speeds when I get off the highway and eventually calm down. It does also go off a lot during my 35-45 MPH trips as well. I will get maybe 1 day of out 5 in a row that it isn't running.
     
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    This does sound like abnormal behavior. If the fan is running that much then 1) the cooling fan is clogged or defective, 2) one of the temperature sensors in the battery compartment is reporting bogus information, 3) there is a problem with the battery pack or other component that is causing the battery to heat up. This is not a condition that I would allow to persist for long. I suggest having the dealer check it out
     
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    Have someone else drive your car and you can sit in the back. Maybe it is wind noise getting in? Or maybe it is the battery. I'm sure you can be postive if you ride in the back. If it is the battery fan you may need to stop by a dealer and explain it to them.
     
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    My 2010 has a fan so quiet I have yet to hear it. The BtT temp stays about 10 degrees over ambient so the fan must be working. Fan sounds defective or the temp switch that controls it or something is stuck in the squirrel cage...
     
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    You must keep the cabin as cool as possible both sitting and driving. Heat soak is hard on the Hybrid battery not to mention all the electronics in the cabin.

    Tint
    Window shade
    Crack Windows at the top
    park in shade

    Keep cabin cool while driving AC on in recirc. If your sweating so is the Hybrid battery.

    Having said that if you already do all that if it was me I would spend the $125 fee at the dealer for a Techstream diag.
    They hook a laptop with TStream Toyota Software to the OBDII port and take the car for a ride and check Hybrid battery voltages on all the packs and charging rates and also can tell you why the fan is on. They can immed. tell you if the Hybrid battery has an issue. Also if there is an issue its free instead of the not sure please check diag fee.

    Better to find out at the dealer than be stranded somewhere is my thought.

    Please check out Lusciousgarage.com for more info.
     
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    You are about a 4 hour drive from Steve at AutoBeYours.com (Plug In Hybrid Electric Vehicle PHEV). Take your Prius to him and he will diagnose and fix it for a reasonable price.

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    Okay, so I did a little more experimenting on my drive home last night.

    During highway drive:
    When A/C (auto initiated) was on and Fan running above 1 bar, the fan in the back made no sound.
    When I turned off the A/C entirely, or turned up the temp on Auto to cause the fan to decrease to just 1 bar, the fan in the back turned on for the battery.

    So it seems like it runs in sync with the A/C system that if the cabin temp is 80 degrees+ and I'm not trying to cool it any lower than 80, the car automatically turns on the battery fan since it knows I'm not cooling the cabin with the A/C off. When I turn A/C on and temp down to cause the fan to blow harder than 1 bar, the battery fan turns off.

    Does this sound like normal behavior?

    I wondered if I was just hearing the air rush through the cabin, so I experimented trying "re-circulate" versus "flow thru" modes for the A/C, and it made no difference in the sounds.

    P.S. I have windows shaded at 20% all around the car.
     
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    Is the drivers side rear window down half an inch causing wind noise? It's sometimes easy to press the wrong window switch when you're driving and at lower speeds you don't notice the wind noise.
     
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    The battery fan turns on when the battery temps get above 95F. If you are not using the AC in 85 weather then it can definitely be running but at a slow speed. When mine was at a speed mode of 4 out of 6 my wife could not hear it and she can hear a pin drop.

    The fan does not change speed with car speed. If it sounds like it is running faster at higher car speeds that sounds like wind noise and not battery fan to me.
     
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    it does sound like normal operation. as you cool the interior, the hybrid battery cools and needs less speed of it's own fan or none at all. but as far as the sound goes, you would have to listen to another one to know if it's louder than average although, i suspect it is.
     
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    2011 owner, live in Cincinnati.

    I hear my fan a lot. Not constantly, and not every highway trip, but I hear it on average once per trip. Car has a dark exterior and is never garaged. At work I crack the windows during the day, but the rest of the time when it's parked the windows are up.

    I have the Torque app on Android and I monitor battery intake temperature. It's crazy, the intake temp. takes a long time to decline even with the A/C on. On a hot day (outside temps at 90F, for example) if the car was parked in the sun with the windows up, even if I have the A/C on at a comfortable temperature (Auto - 78F) for 30 minutes, that intake temperature will still be hovering around 90-95F after 30 minutes, with the fan spinning.

    I've not taken the time to consider if there is anything wrong with my vehicle either, but for now I'm not worried about it. We've only put 3,000 miles on it since purchased. We do have a dog that rides along regularly, and a seat cover that can cover the vent if not careful - but I check regularly to make sure it's not obstructed.
     
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    FWIW - I've never heard my battery fan on my 2010 IV.