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What is a good replacement for a gen 1 prius?

Discussion in 'Generation 1 Prius Discussion' started by Belkorin, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. Belkorin

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    My 2001 prius that has served me well for the last three years has gotten to the point where I feel I should replace it instead of continuing to pour money into it (HV batter and who knows what else are going, at nearly 300k miles). What are some recommendations for a replacement for it? Right now I'm open to suggestions in just about any price range, new or used.

    My usual driving habits are a daily 5 or so mile (one way) city commute, 60-ish miles freeway a few times a month, and a 800 mile (round trip) trek across the state about once a month.
     
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    I've always been intrigued by the Toyota Yaris. Sure, coming from a Prius you will sacrifice some MPG's, but you have no worries about HV batteries, inverters etc. Reliable, simple, economical. This was a very popular car overseas before it was brought to the US market in 2007.

    Here's some info from Edmunds:
    2007 Toyota Yaris
     
  3. Britprius

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    The Yaris hybrid has just gone into full production in the UK.
     
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    have you considered avalon? very quiet and comfortable for longish commutes. otoh, for your daily 10 miler, pip would be perfect and there are some spectacular deals out there right now.
     
  5. Belkorin

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    I should have also mentioned that one of the things that I really like about the prius is the small size of it.
     
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    I just purchased the Prius V - Three for $27 k. I had to replace the 2006 Prius that was recently t-boned. If you are looking for something that compares in size to the Gen I you should look at the Prius C. They were in the $20 k range in the DC area.
     
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    The obvious replacement is a 'prius c'. Used ones are not yet available but:
    • 1.5L engine - both, cooled EGR and coolant heat recovery in Prius c
      • cooled EGR means higher efficiency at higher power
      • coolant heat recovery shortens warm-up improves cold weather performance
    • 20 vs 38 modules - newest style with lower internal resistance
    • nearly identical internal space but more usable because rear seats fold down
    • significantly improved transaxle - eliminated the water coolant loop
    • ~45 MPG (NHW11) vs ~52 MPG (prius c), user reported MPG
    • significantly improved safety features (air bags and structure)
    • 0-60 mph, 11.3 sec (Prius c) vs 13 sec (NHW11)
    Bob Wilson
     
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    Three Prius V's for $27k not bad. I'll have 3 LOL.
     
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    ...if possible go with Prius Gen-3 you can try a smaller Prius c but why not the proven standard Liftback?
    Gen3 has the advantage (over used GenII for example) of better MPG on those short 5 miles commutes.
    If you're trying to keep price down go with lowest trim Prius 2 but some Michiganders (?sp) are heading to NY to get great year end 2012 deals on Plug-In Prius (Liftback) can be had in the range $24-25k after federal tax credit rebate of $2500. But that's for a 2012 so at some point they will get sold.
     
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    Doesn't exist in the US.

    I'd say Gen 3 regular Prius (aka liftback) would be a good candidate and possibly the Prius c. I personally wouldn't buy the c unless I were on a really tight budget (which I'm not).
     
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    What disadvantages does the c have over the standard gen iii?
     
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    Shorter EV range (0.5 mile vs. 1 mile), worse hwy mpg (, larger turning circle with the 16" alloy, 99hp, noisy on the highway (though I found it acceptable since I wasn't expecting a Lexus tomb interior)

    That being said, the advantages outweigh the disadvantages

    • Super easy to park
    • Tighter turning radius with the 15" wheel option
    • Some people say visibility out back is better with a regular rear window
    • Lower MSRP (can have a loaded one for the price of a base Liftback)
    • Better city mpg
    • Has all the modern updates from the Gen 3 (Cooled EGR, EHR, completely beltless engine)
    The c would fit most of your driving well but for the long trip, I'm not sure. You seem ok with the Gen 1 on the long trips so I think the c would be fine. Any of the larger Prius siblings would fare better on the highway (stability, road noise and comfort, the last part moreso on the v as it has a longer wheelbase to better smooth out road imperfections)
     
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    I'm looking forward to the Prius c transmission enhancements showing up in the 1.8L Prius and other models.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    It will but there are two versions. One for UK/EU that has Li battery and one for US with Nimh battery, sorry I do not no why.
     
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    I would stay in the Prius family for sure if It were me. The C is better for city driving but it looks like you do more highway driving. I drive a gen 3 hatchback no compaints.The PIP seems to be a good deal with federal and state rebates on taxes, 60 months of zero percent financing and 1,000 rebate from Toyota. It also gets 90 MPG and the electric charge is the equilivant of $2 per gallon gas. However the C has the lowest price point. If you have a family the hatchback or V is great with the extra space. Good luck.
     
  16. Belkorin

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    Unfortunately, living in an apartment, I have nowhere to plug in a PiP, otherwise I'd love to get one, or something similar.
     
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    According to your statements you're doing about 12,000 miles per year, mostly highway. Based on your odometer, how many miles are you actually traveling per year at the moment?

    Also, what mileage are you currently getting in your Gen 1? That would help us know about your driving style and whether you'd be matching EPA or not. (Incidentally, the Prius c EPA ratings are better than the old EPA ratings of the Gen 1!)

    If you're open to used I'd suggest looking at later-year high-mileage Gen 2 Priuses that are out of the hybrid warranty. Their prices should relatively low making them a good deal for somebody comfortable with the Prius.

    If you're looking new and the Gen 1 Prius has the utility you'd need I'd suggest you look at a Prius c, which should, being conservative at least break even on running costs compared to a conventional subcompact, with a decent chance of recovering the hybrid premium. The more miles you do per year above the 12,000 your post indicates the better a deal it would be.
     
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  18. Belkorin

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    I put around 90000 miles on the gen 1 over 3 years. I'm not entirely sure where all the miles came from, other than I had a 90 mile round trip commute for about nine months, and I did two drives from michigan to boston.

    When the gen 1 was in top condition I got about 37 mpg on my daily commute, according to the car, and around 50 mpg on the 800 mile journey.
     
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    About 12 years ago I used to put 35,000 miles a year commuting to work. I purchased a Honda Civic and put a good aftermarket stereo in it for enjoyment and i had a good cell phone plan. The car was efficient for highway driving, highway driving was easy on the brakes and car, I did change my oil every 6 weeks or so, and the car was inexpensive to repair. It did the trick for me. A Prias hatchback is great on gas 50 MPG and it is common for people to get over 200,000 miles with minimum repairs.
     
  20. Belkorin

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    I rented a civic this weekend to do the usual long drive, and I'm not really a fan of it. Nice gas mileage though, averaged about 42.5 according to the car.