1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

P0AA6 -- 526 and 613 codes 600 miles after Transaxle Fluid Replacement

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Oscar J, Jan 16, 2013.

  1. Oscar J

    Oscar J New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2013
    2
    0
    0
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    I was once the proud owner of a 2006 Prius with 106,716 miles on it. Never missed a regularly scheduled service. Now, I am no longer proud, but just another owner of a Prius with a failed transaxle.

    Last week, I parked my car on my way to work and, while the car was idling in park, the Triangle of Death (red with exlamation mark within) came up on the dashboard. The car went into limp mode -- it was unable to shift into drive or reverse -- so I had it towed to Darcars in Silver Spring, MD. They thought the original 12v battery was dead, so they replaced it.

    I picked it up the next day and drove it to my home with a normal dashboard with no deadly triangle warning. After 25 miles or so and only 5 blocks from my house, the Triangle of Death showed up again! So, I just drove it to Russel Toyota near Baltimore, MD. Unfortunately, they told me that I will have to pay $5,000 to have the transaxle replaced. The error codes were P0AA9 with 526 and 613. I spoke to Toyota Customer Experience and they gave me a case number, but they told me they could not provide me any goodwill assistance. Bummer. I presume it was because of the number of miles I have on my car.

    I will try to email Toyota, write letters, etc., in further attempts to get some goodwill assistance for me, a long time Toyota customer who took good care of my Prius. Spending $5k on a car with a Blue Book value of $11k is painful. I know the powertrain warranty ran out at 60k. :( Any other ideas out there on how to convince Toyota they should provide some assistance, even though my car has more than 100k miles on it?

    Now, I've seen a few posts on here that advise replacing the transaxle fluid at 60k or even more frequently than that. Some have postulated that shavings in the fluid may cause shorting out and the P0AA6. I did not, unfortunately, have my fluid changed at that 60k mileage. However, Russel did the transmission drain and fill service at my last regularly scheduled service at 106,118 miles on 12/28. Sorry, I did not have the old fluid saved for testing. So, my guess is, based on the copied and pasted post from Luscious Garage, is that my transaxle failure is the following:
    While there are other potential causes of P0AA6, the most common by far is winding deterioration in the traction motor​
    Perhaps the loss of viscosity in the old fluid hastened the detioration. Any thoughts?
     
  2. nh7o

    nh7o Off grid since 1980

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2011
    1,686
    340
    0
    Location:
    Hawaii
    Vehicle:
    2009 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Sorry to hear of your plight. I can't give any further suggestions on dealing with Toyota, but transaxle failure is rather rare, based on what we see on PC. You could try to locate a used transaxle from the salvage yards, for example autobeyours.com. Perhaps there is an independent hybrid specialist in your area that would install it. You could be out the door for much less than the price you quoted.
     
  3. Avi's Advanced Automotive

    Avi's Advanced Automotive Independent hybrid repair shop

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2012
    775
    360
    0
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    One thing I would do is get a sample of the fluid that was put in when in was serviced and see what it is. Maybe have someone other than the dealer get you that sample. You might try having it replaced again as well as measuring how much fluid was in the transaxle and getting your sample. I'd want to be sure the correct type and amount of fluid was put in.


    Avi
     
  4. usnavystgc

    usnavystgc Die Hard DIYer and Ebike enthusiast.

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2011
    3,159
    989
    0
    Location:
    Tucson, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    I agree with Avi. I wouldn't doubt if Russell put the wrong fluid in the tranny.
     
  5. The Critic

    The Critic Resident Critic

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2005
    3,193
    2,322
    0
    Location:
    CA
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    I doubt the wrong fluid ruined the transmission. It was likely a freak failure and you were the unlucky one.


    iPhone ?
     
  6. Avi's Advanced Automotive

    Avi's Advanced Automotive Independent hybrid repair shop

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2012
    775
    360
    0
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    Unless they filled it up with brake fluid, I would imagine it wouldn't kill it that fast, however, it would be nice to know. Has anyone filled their trans with Dextron ATF and proven it will work just as well? If 3½ quarts of WS were to come out, wouldn't we be sure he is the unlucky one?

    Avi
     
  7. The Critic

    The Critic Resident Critic

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2005
    3,193
    2,322
    0
    Location:
    CA
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    True, my understanding is that Dexron-VI is not drastically different than Toyota WS, based on the multi-vehicle additive packages that Lubrizol is formulating for blenders.

    http://www.pathfind.com/_client/LUB013/documents/9683-Product-Sheet.pdf
     
    SFO likes this.
  8. HaroldW

    HaroldW Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2012
    716
    95
    0
    Location:
    Grand Forks BC Canada
    Vehicle:
    2014 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    What would go in the inverter. Does it short out or is it gear wear?:confused: Is it possible the pump stopped working and it heated up? H
     
  9. PriusGuy32

    PriusGuy32 Prius Driver Extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2012
    1,417
    512
    0
    Location:
    Harrison Township, Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Well all I can add to this thread is I concur with what some people have commented:
    - I would try to change the trans fluid myself to see if that would remedy the problem, saving a sample of the fluid drained for analysis.

    - IF the transmission has in fact given up the ghost, I'd find a used one from a salvage yard or a place specializing in hybrids. Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market is a good place to look.

    Good Luck!
     
  10. Oscar J

    Oscar J New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2013
    2
    0
    0
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Well, I acquired a portion of the old fluid. Who can I send it to for testing?
     
  11. PriusGuy32

    PriusGuy32 Prius Driver Extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2012
    1,417
    512
    0
    Location:
    Harrison Township, Michigan
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    Blackstone Labs, Link: Transmission

    Thats who Ive used for years.