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Dashcam captures road-rage from Prius

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by bwilson4web, Jun 26, 2013.

  1. frodoz737

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    yea...they'll enjoy riding that buck.
     
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    Liked your post because you added "Alpha Hotel" to my vocabulary.
     
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    Pretty much explains why I too am installing a HD Dashcam. It will rest in front of the rear view mirror.
    In a stupid freeway incident, a Dashcam is a must!
     
  4. Chris S

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    I've been wondering why some installed these. Now I know and may also get one. I'd love to put a second one in the rear window as well.
     
  5. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    There are two styles of dual-camera units. I'm using a "Carcam III" (an X8000 model) that has dual cameras on the body. Other, dual-camera dashcams have a remote, rear view camera that has the advantage of not recording the cabin occupants (women are not fond of cameras being on them all the time . . . but they don't mind if the cameras are on their husbands and boy friends . . . )

    Bob Wilson
     
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    We just had an incident here where a guy in a Mercedes ran in to the back of a BMW and fled the scene. A doctor in the BMW took off in pursuit to try to get a smart phone picture of the Mercedes license plate. During the high speed chase the Mercedes ran a stop sign and ran up under an 18-wheeler container trailer and was killed.

    The doctor is being sited for careless and reckless driving and endangerment for his part in the high speed chase. I wonder what part a dashcam in the BMW might play in this case ?
     
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  7. Chris S

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    Good reason for a camera looking out the back window too... As long as there's a front tag.

    Is footage admissible in court?
     
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    Good question. Does anyone know the answer?
     
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    You submit it to the judge and the judge will determine if it is admissible.
     
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    I can only imagine how complicated that must be for the courts. 20 years ago when I worked in a court, I attended that year's NCSC Court Technology Conference and one of the sessions was about how new technologies like computer modeling and animation could be problematic in the courtroom, because juries can find anything 'video' so convincing, and there was already a concern that if two accident lawyers show up for trial with their own different computer-animated 'reconstructions' of how the accident had happened, the verdict could end up going to the side that spent more on video production. There was some talk at the time of requiring animated 'reconstructions' to have obvious markers (yellow sky, for example) to keep them from seeming too realistic.

    (And think about it ... how realistic could low/medium-budget CGI even look 20 years ago?)

    I haven't worked around courts for more than 15 years now so I really don't know the direction their evidence rules ended up going. But now, of course, not only can everybody shoot video, everybody can edit video on a basic laptop if not right on their phone, and these we're not talking about clunky-looking animations but real-looking video. I can only imagine the headaches for courts deciding what to admit.

    I don't know if there are any dashcams incorporating something like InformaCam to help establish authenticity....

    -Chap
     
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    Has anybody seen any updates in local news? Is CHP making efforts to track the jerk down?

    -Chap
     
  12. jgilliam1955

    jgilliam1955 Sometime your just gotta cry! 2013 Prius 4.

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    This made made get a dash camera.

    SCH-I535 ? 2
     
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    You can identify two types of "road-rager's"; The type that think it's funny or a practical joke to tailgate Pri's or other small cars, or pull off some other type of prank because they think they can get away with it - typically younger and male. If you try to call attention to them, they typically tend to run or back off and disappear into the crowd, or traffic in this case. The other type, more dangerous because their road-rage is coming from an emotional state of anger, an indication the driver likely has other problems in their life. This type won't back down when confronted and the situation can get explosively out of hand quickly. Common in both is lack of good judgement from either immaturity or emotional unstability.
     
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    What do you by 'never know ... if''? Every motor vehicle operator has a weapon.
     
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    Found a place to mount my dashcam that finally makes me happy . . . bungie corded to passenger head rest.

    The dashcam body has about a 20 degree angle to the left but this is easily corrected by turning the articulating cameras for front and rear view. I had tried the little 'stalk' but the camera was more exposed to folks outside the car than I wanted and worse, too much vibration. It can't read the speedometer numbers but that is OK. The main thing is I've got eye-level view of front and rear windows along with the GPS recorded information.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Looks like the video isn't there anymore.

    Bob, I'd love to see pics of your bungie cord handywork.
     
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    I also recently bought a dash cam because of the amount of hi-jinx I see on a daily basis around here.
    Hopefully I'll never need the video from it- but at least it's available if needed.