1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Engine Water Pump, Pink Crust on Weep Hole

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Erik Aalto, Jun 26, 2013.

  1. Erik Aalto

    Erik Aalto Junior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2011
    47
    11
    0
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I had my 2008 Prius serviced in early April for the Electric Water Pump and Steering Shaft recalls, and during the service, the tech noticed that there was pink crust on the weep hole of my engine water pump. Replacement cost was to be $300, and I declined at the time.

    I am about to go in for a 5k service (144.3k miles), and was hoping to get some quick input from anybody as to whether or not this service is truly necessary, provided my car is and has been running just fine?

    Is it worth it to risk it for another 5k miles just to see (like I did from April - now)? What's unfortunate is that the dealership sent me a coupon to save 15% on this specific service after my decline, and now I cannot find it, although I could probably work out a verbal arrangement ($45 is $45).

    Thanks in advance for your input, I did search for other threads but they all seemed to indicate actual failure, or people being told they needed to replace it (before actual failure).
     
  2. Eclipse1701d

    Eclipse1701d Prius Enthusiast

    Joined:
    May 12, 2011
    645
    223
    0
    Location:
    Nature coast, Florida
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Three Touring
    If it was me, I would perform the service. Better to have it done at your own leisure then be stuck on the side of the road or at the mercy of a mechanic or dealership you are not familiar with...
     
  3. jdcollins5

    jdcollins5 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2009
    5,131
    1,338
    0
    Location:
    Wilmington, NC
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    III
    Agree. 144k miles, yea I would get it replaced before it leaves you beside the road.
     
  4. Patrick Wong

    Patrick Wong DIY Enthusiast

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    18,200
    6,479
    0
    Location:
    Green Valley, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2015 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    1. Have you seen the pink crust yourself? If yes, is the crust growing? Do you see deposits on the air conditioner compressor housing?

    2. Do you notice that the level in the engine coolant reservoir is dropping over time?

    If the coolant pump bearing leak is really minor then you can defer the pump replacement, but you should continue to keep an eye on the coolant level. If you see that the leak is significant then the pump should be replaced now.

    I would strongly encourage you to look for the pink crust yourself, and not take the word of the service writer. It is not impossible that the dealership service writer might sell unneeded services.

    At 130K miles, I had my 2004 in for service and was told that the engine coolant pump should be replaced. I looked at the pump and saw no leak so I declined that service. The car has 150K miles now and the pump still is fine.
     
    Merkey, koolingit and alekska like this.
  5. Erik Aalto

    Erik Aalto Junior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2011
    47
    11
    0
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    I haven't seen the crust myself, but I also don't distrust this dealership...they declined my initial request to drain and fill ATF, meaning, I was willing to give them my money and they said no. I went ahead and just bit the bullet, even though my instincts were telling me no, what to fix = working. I'm potentially looking at trading the vehicle in soon anyway, so I can cite this major service along with the past services to ATF, inverter pump, etc. as to reasons why I deserve more trade in value. We need more space so we are looking at the Sienna, and would still have our 2011 Prius. If they scoff at my trade in logic, no sale.
     
  6. jadziasman

    jadziasman Prius owner emeritus

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2011
    1,355
    487
    0
    Location:
    District 6
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    What did the stealership actually charge you for the engine water pump replacement? (if this was the bullet you decided to bite) $300 is a really good quote compared to others I have seen here recently.

    You deserve more trade in value with a new engine water pump........hmm, let me ponder that for a moment.

    Ninety nine percent of a car's trade in value is based on its external condition, its odometer reading, and how clean and free of wear/damage the passenger compartment is.

    Obvious things like worn out brakes or a worn out/noisy suspension will decrease the residual value. I doubt that unless your engine water pump was on it last legs (obviously leaking fresh coolant from the weep hole or was making a hell of a lot of noise - like mine was until last Saturday), your residual value would be marked down by your stealership's or another's appraiser. [But he might just ding you if you still have your original aux battery - LOL!!!!!!! Sorry, I just couldn't resist the temptation. I know I promised not to.]

    Anyhoo, as long as you continue to own your '08, at least you have peace of mind that the engine water pump won't be a source of trouble for you any time soon.
     
  7. Erik Aalto

    Erik Aalto Junior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2011
    47
    11
    0
    Location:
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    $278 before tax, $100 parts ($80 pump, $20 coolant), $178 labor. Provided I can find one of the coupons I neglected to bring with me, I may be able to knock it down a little bit more. As for the trade in prospect, I agree, it's a foolish notion, but I am one of those people that cares a lot less about my car's exterior, and more about how well it functions, hence why we own 2 of these cars to begin with (they aren't pretty). I only bothered mentioning it because as I was filling out a quick questionnaire online for a trade in quote, one of the questions was whether or not the car had a major service performed ($200+) and how recently, so I figured good preventative maintenance might help the car hold some value. I'm sure I'll ultimately get dinged for exterior damage, as I have a nice 8 inch scrape on the right rocker panel, and 3 puncture marks on the front bumper, but these are purely cosmetic.

    The other idea we have is to not bother with trading in anything, and simply save up whatever we ideally thought we would get for the Prius on trade in, and then simply purchase a third vehicle. With all the money I have put into my Prius in the past year, and the fact that it is paid off, I may as well just continue driving it until it doesn't. The only major concern I have for the car is the traction battery - not that I have any cause for concern, but I have been noticing some funky behavior as of late....most days when I start up and drive, it gets down to 3 or 2 bars and hangs out for a little bit before jumping back to 6 bars, 7 bars through my regular commute (33 miles each way, 5x a week). I never really used to have this issue when the car was younger. Mileage seems to be fine, hanging around 52-53 with conservative cruise control acceleration and speed limit cruising, or 45 - 46 when I accelerate near WOT and cruise around 8+ over the speed limit (up to 78).

    The car has never given me an issue in the almost 6 years that we have owned it, minus the occasional accidental gas run out :).