21.2 Miles all EV

Congratulations and nice story. One that only a Prius Plug In owner can appreciate to include specifics. Probably not the best place to post an observation. I made the mistake several days ago posting on another PriusChat forum. As the discussion developed I revealed some of the specifics on my Prius EV travels, adventures, habits. I've learned at least twice here (PirusChat) when posting, that revealing specifics, can turn the conversation unnecessarily negative. As a result, I'll refrain in the future. No disrespect, but I realized most of the negative comments and ill advice came from Prius Hybrid owners. Hybrid and Plug In group (some, many, most, you decide) appear to be different in their driving logic, habits, and views. I've never sensed a Plug In owner with a superiority complex vs the Prius Hybrid. Until recently, no indication how the Hybrid owners feel about the Plug In, owners, habits, etc.

 

Wow, that is really is awesome. No you will be trying to top that.

 

In my 26K mile PiP experience, it's all in the way the PiP teaches the driver to drive better (more frugally) over time. 21+ miles is a great range and one I have never yet achieved. However, I routinely get up to 15 miles out of one charge. It's all how you drive, especially as you get to know the PiP's quirks and the characteristics of a well-known road circuit.

 

This is why everytime I turn off the car, I am sure to reset my trip A prior. then in mornings I am always zeroed out on trip A each EV trip. I save my trip B for my lifetime of car and never reset that, which is at 100mpg for 6200 miles so far over last 11 months with several long roadtrips.

My best all EV trip to date has been 19.2miles, that was last summer going 24mph.

Man you must really hit it all perfect to get over 20 ev!! congrats!

Dan

 

Amazing
Do you recall what the EV est was before the drive ? after ? in general ?

 

Drove 128.2 miles, averaged 42 mph, 29 EV miles, 85 mpg

 

This is awesome Cacti but I think that is much easier to do than what retired did. Not to diminish what you did but with some timely EV/HV switching someone can really rack up their EV miles.

 

Yes, you are correct, the switching between EV/HV really can increase the EV miles.

Cacti

 

... at the expense of burning more gasoline. It is straightforward to "game" the system to get huge EV numbers. But what's the point?

 

Personally, I don't see anything wrong. Good to see what individuals can accomplish, in this case MPG. Kind of like the Olympics, the swimmers wear swim suits made of special materials that increase speed. NASCAR, same, same. In the old days, cheating or rule violations, were the norm. If the officials caught a few, but missed a few, someone had a advantage. Now things are strictly enforced, or at least we think. I enjoy trying to squeeze a little more mileage out of a great MPG car.

 

A strictly academic curiosity, but it would be interesting to take the PiP on a flat open road in the middle of nowhere (or a race track) with a full charge, no wind, and drive EV at 15 mph (most efficient speed) and see how many EV miles one could get. That may be the only way to beat retired4999's record.

 

I would predict 26.2 miles. Ya, a full marathon.

 

What I was getting at is that the EV statistic on the car display can be "gamed" to produce large EV numbers, at the expense of mpg of gasoline. Normally, the ICE won't recharge the battery beyond what is done in HV mode, but there are techniques that use regeneration to rebuild the battery charge. Ultimately, this added EV range is coming from burning gasoline. The way the Plug-in Prius combines use of gasoline and electric power, sometimes using both at the same time, makes it difficult to define "EV range".

 

Am I correct to assume on my particular 128.2 mile route I would achieve the same 29 miles EV without manually activating the EV/HV? The EV driving ratio display does not accumulate any of the EV miles while the car is in the HV mode so one does not know their actual EV miles driven. Is this correct?

Cacti

 

You guys have me wondering bigtime. I have a one mile loop where I coach and school is out of session.
Its flat except for a couple speedbumps. I'm heading over there to see what I can do

 

Markabele is pretty darn close.
So I drove a flat mile long loop at the high school. Only signs of life were a pair of retirees walking and one runner and by the 4th loop I was getting funny looks.

I started at 10.0 EV as it took me 4.2 to drive the uphill road to the school. Each loop took me .6 EV
No I didn't drive 24 loops, stopped after 6 which was a good sampling given all were consistently .6
and note that .6 was actual and driven as suggested about 15-17mph trying not to lose any EV miles

So if I'd charged up at the school and chosen to continue then I would've gotten 24miles.
My PiP has never read higher than 14.4
I'll add that we've got a heatwave and it was almost 90 degrees when I drove so not gonna get better conditions.

btw any records should be loop (ie not net downhill) just like marathon records are required to be
I'm sure someone can find some long gradual downhill and drive it in the middle of the night !