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Discussion in 'Gen 1 Prius Plug-in 2012-2015' started by bielinsk, Jul 26, 2013.

  1. JMD

    JMD 2012 Prius 4 Solar Roof

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    The best news is your not hurt.
     
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    What did you replace it with? o_O
     
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    Yep, they are totaling it.

    Liking the Fusion plug in. 21 miles electric would be nice.
     
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    I looked at this car the other day. I really liked the styling. The salesperson did everything in his power to point out all the negative aspects of the car.

    I have no idea why he would do this. If he worked for me he would be fired.

    The front end looks like an Aston Martin. The inside was roomy. The trunk was very small. Most of it taken up by the batteries. 43K.

    The salesperson says they are not selling.

    One thing that really surprised me was the door for the charger. It is made with a thin piece of plastic. It looks like it will break in a very short time.

    The salesperson told me there was a $3750.00 Federal credit Only if it is leased. I told him I think he might be wrong about this. He stuck to his story.
     
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    yea ... a total ... I figured as much gauged by our own Prius being totaled and looking way less worse than yours. I was taken back when the body shop expert above went on and on and going to great lengths to say how and why and so matter of factly that your ride would positively be repaired.
    Hey! ... that big wad of cash will make a nice down payment on a Rav4-EV!
    ;)
     
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    Wait, a salesperson that doesn't know anything about what they are selling? Say it isn't so.....
     
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    I already have a Rav 4 EV. I need something that takes gas for trips to Vegas. Have another Rav4 EV right now as a rental, so we have two white ones in the garage.
     
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    I get about 50 miles electric in my Volt (this time of year).

    Just sayin'.
     
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    Yea, was thinking about a volt, but they are just SOO small. Would be tough with a little one and gear in the back, let alone our boxer. But will take a look at one to rule them out.
     
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    Something bigger for the safety of my family...

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    I was awfully glad that I was alone at the time my Prius was rear-ended.
     
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    JMD 2012 Prius 4 Solar Roof

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    TL is a nice car.
     
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    PiP would be ideal then. Fusion Energi highway real world may be 40 MPG.
     
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    Responding to the comments above, please consider that I share an educated guess about the damage based on viewing a few photos of the damage. Judging by comments such those above and by comments posted in this thread related to another rear impact to a Prius, How safe is car after rear end collision | Page 2 | PriusChat ...."educated" (informed) comments are rarely posted on these matters.

    Comparing what I posted to the $15,000 plus of a damage report written after a much deeper inspection than what was available in posted pictures.:

    Emotion aside, a total loss is considered if damage is expected to exceed 60 percent of retail value of the damaged vehicle. An
    insured is also entitled to a sales tax allowance in a total loss settlement. KBB shows a 2012 PIP Advanced (I keyed in an estimate of 15,000 miles on the odometer) to be worth $34,300 plus tax. Add on improvements raise the amount of a T/L settlement.

    From standpoints of a T/L calculation, this is a $37,000 plus insurance payout, including adjustments for sales tax and add on improvements by the owner. There is $22,2000, including tax available to restore this Prius to pre-accident condition before
    60 percent of a T/L settlement payout is exceeded.

    The economics I just presented indicate this is a repairable vehicle since there is a cushion above 45 percent to cover the costs of what is not presently justified to be included in the damage report. Repairs are technically feasible, in my experience. Does anyone else posting in this thread have any experience writing damage reports and managing repairs of heavy rear hits of unibody construction?

    Bielinsk posted twice comments made by the person who represented the collsion repair shop evaluating the damage. It seems obvious that person was not trying to sell repair services in this instance even though repairs costs are estimated to be $7000 less than 60 percent of a T/L settlement. The shop does not want to repair this vehicle and the insurance company is not insisting that they repair it.

    BTW, this thread is about a unibody vehicle. There is no frame.
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    The design and construction consist of a bolt on subframe in the front of the vehicle cradling the drive train and lower front suspension and steering components. The rest of the vehicle is made up of cleverly designed and folded/bent pieces of sheet metal an extruded sheet welded together to afford energy absorbing crush zones and lightweight structural integrity. The rear of the unibody is similar to a trailer in that it is towed around by the front wheels. In ordrer of repair difficulty and potential post repair complications, heavy damage to the rear is easiest to repair, front damage is second, and heavy side hits are the most challenging.

    This post is intended to be informative, as are my others in this thread. Consider the comments in some of the other posts in this thread and in the ones in the 2012 thread on the same topic I posted a link to early in this post. Emotion, hand wringing, anecdotal and uninformed opinion. Is that what readers of these kind of threads expect to read, or deserve?

    Post about what you know. If you are not, what are you doing?????


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    NEinSE - Thank you for your insight. The repair guy said he "could" repair it. But he recommends not to because of the electrical issue he is unable to resolve. He would need to flatbed the traction battery to toyota to evaluate that.

    $15,000 (I haven't seen the damage report, I expect it to be much higher) + $1,900 (add ons) + diminished value of up to 30%, + tax I think easily puts this into TL. The diminished loss is the real kicker here. I made sure when I spoke to my agent that I don't care who hit me, I don't pay the other driver to make me whole, I pay my insurance to make me whole. So I would hold them liable for all damage minus my deductible.

    Seawolf - I am not ruling out another PiP, but the thought of my elbow in that cup holder anymore kind of kills it. I need to drive about 18 miles a day and the Fusion would do that. Even if the fusion got 40mpg on gas, thats still better than the Volt. But I have to see how it matches up size wise.

    A plug in makes sense for my driving, but I need to see what I can get one for, what rebates are still available, etc.

    Still don't know what will happen with the check I got from CA last year or the FED tax I saved.
     
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    That'll buff right out....

    That really sucks. Poor little Prius... :(
     
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    Just curious, have you thought about the Accord Plug-In?
     
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    Looked at the specs of the Accord, but that only gets about 11 miles electric as well as the PiP.
     
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    Ah, that is right. The Ford products have more electric miles. The Fusion just looks too long for my taste. But, the front end really looks good. Good luck on your search!
     
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    I thought Ford got in trouble for fudging the MPG.

    It looks like a heavy car more around you