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Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Fuel Economy' started by F8L, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    You're in the spreadsheet:


    "F8L" will have to edit the 'first post.'

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    Come on guys, got to get those last 3 entries in the 60s improved to 70 mpg+
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Opps, sorry. Its fixed and you'll notice it updated all references to the spreadsheet at the same time.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    This has me thinking I may see how much better mpg I can get with my c:)
     
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    if you want to know what a person gets then look at fuelly and you can see what they get over the long run. I think that is how you can see what a person gets. and more importantly how a car performs mpg :) I find that driving a route for mpg sounds fun to me.
     
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    My sister in law was telling me at Oregons womans prison they have a prius that drives continually around the prison grounds. they drive real slow. I wonder what the mpg must be:rolleyes: looks like the state of Oregon made a great choice in what car to do this task.

    ps dont ask me how she knows:LOL:
     
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  8. markabele

    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    Actually an electric car would have been the best choice for that kind of job.
     
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    I dont think so this car drives 24 hrs a day. it never stops except to change driver/guard, and circles the facility
     
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    well it has to get gas and be serviced i think they may have two. not sure:confused:
     
  11. markabele

    markabele owner of PiP, then Leaf, then Model 3

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    Ya, I suppose if it is going 24/7 then a Prius would be best...a Prius C to be exact.
     
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    After thinking about it I realize that my sister in law must not have told me the whole story. the cars must have to stop some so I am not shure if they patrol when there are prisioners outside. If there are more than one car it may be 2 hrs on and 2hrs off this may allow enough time for recharge?? not sure.:)
     
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    i tried some of these hypermiling techniques you mention here..particularly cruise control at low speed ...i notice a lot of battery is used....
    i thought avoiding battery use as much as possible is recommended?
     
  14. xraydoug

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    How is your mpg? I still need to read more about what works best with my car.

    I drive a c and with it I can easily get trip mpg up if I drive longer. it seems that short trips is a brick wall to mpg. my drive to work in the morning is 2.9 miles. and I can only get mpg to 55 mpg but it is usually about 50. If I drive further like one day I had to drive back home because I forgot my ID. The extra couple miles increased mpg to over 60mpg. I notice driving arround town once my car gets warm it will go up to almost 90 mpg driving. one day I drove 20 miles in town with traffic and stop lights ect. I got 92 mpg for the trip. I use ev as much as possible running the battery down doing this. so ev seems to work great at the low speeds I drive in my prius c.

    I have also heard some say to keep your battery charged up and everything works better. I need to do a lot more trial and error to see. It could be driving at higher speeds, and having the batt charged up will increase mpg? I just don't know yet.
     
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  15. bwilson4web

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    First off, do the experiment. As my drill instructor used to say, 'A grain of observation out-weights 10 lbs of b*llsh*t any day.'

    Now my experience has been that without external charging, there is no way to effectively "charge the battery" without burning extra fuel. This is how I see the Prius traction battery:
    • part of the transmission - it is key to switching between "normal" and "energy recirculate" mode by buffering the instantaneous current flow reversals between MG1 and MG2
    • below 42 mph - allows the engine to cycle ON-OFF while maintaining a constant speed, reducing the engine overhead, fuel cost
    Together, these two functions keep the Prius engine running at maximum efficiency. Without having a plug-in, there is no need to do anything but keep the traction battery temperature as cool as possible by avoiding excessive loads.

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    i notice that with cruise control seems to work well....below 42mph....better maybe than pulse/glide

    i was worried about battery use to much...but it does seem to even out..staying at 52SOC
     
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    not sure what that means in practice??...
     
  18. bwilson4web

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    The HSD has two electrical energy flows:
    • "normal" - MG1 works as a generator and sends 28% of the power to MG2
    • "energy recirculate" - MG2 works as a generator and sends 28% to MG1 to increase the torque (slow the engine) to a more fuel efficient point
    Although this change happens electronically, the traction battery provides the momentary energy needed when switching from one to the other mode.

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    Is this true even during the initial warm-up mode?
     
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    These are independent of warm-up state. It has more to do with vehicle speed.

    Bob Wilson