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Tire Tread wear

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by flareak, Feb 24, 2006.

  1. flareak

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    Okay, I took pictures of my tires because I need your help in determining how worn they are because I can't tell how worn they are because I don't know how.

    Tell me if i need new tires or not
     

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    Ok, i do not know how far this is true but i have heard this suggestion from others.
    If you stick a penny into the dfeepest part of the groove and look at it from the side, and can see Lincoln's head, then you know that your tires are worn down. If you cannot see the head above the level of the tread, then you should be fine.
     
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    You still got some tread left because the wear-bars (that flat area between those horizontal sipes in the thread) aren't at the same level as the rest of the tread there, for dry roads.

    You could take a penny with Lincoln's head pointed toward the tire, and place it in the groove just behind that area of sideblocks in the picture. If the tread is close to the top of Lincoln's head (penny test), it's time to change the tires.

    I've attached a picture of my tire just before I changed them yesterday.
     
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    Amazing how two people gave a similar reply at the same time :)
     
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    flareak,

    If you look on the second picture, there is a small triangle on the side wall of the tire at the 12 o'clock position. This indicates where the wear bar is located buried in the tread region of the tire. The wear bar will be at the same level as the rest of the tread when the useful life of the tire has expired. This can be seen as a stripe running across the tread.

    Some people will replace their tires before this point due to the nature of hydroplaning when the tire can not clear the water from under itself during wet road conditions.

    Kaos1
     
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    What pressure do you run it your tires? It appears that the center tread has a LOT more life left in it, which is pretty usual. Its another reason why I don't think running 42/40 is going to decrease the life expectancy of our tires, because all my tires wear out the outside tread first anyway.
    And, as others said, you don't have to replace the tires yet, as they aren't down to the wear bars. But, if you live in a rainy area, and worry about hydroplaning, especially with spring coming, it may be worthwhile to change them earlier.
     
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    i fishtailed on the highway today. i think i'm going to get new tires.
     
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    How many miles did you have on them?
     
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    Fishtail (or any other traction loss symptom) can be the result of tires that are inappropriate for the road and weather conditions- ie, it could occur even if the tires are *BRAND NEW* if the tires are not right for the driving conditions..

    That said, your treads do look quite worn, and the Integrity is not known for great traction even when new, so I would recommend replacing them with something that has better traction and durability than the Integrity. The most popular multi-season replacement tires are the Michelin Hydroedge and Harmony and the Goodyear ComforTread and TripleTread.. I personally have the Hydroedge, which have excellent wet traction, but do generate a fair bit of road noise (which I really only noticed when I swapped them out to put on the X-Ice winter tires, which are exceptionally quiet tires, all the more amazing for being a winter tire)..
     
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    i have 13k miles on them and... the road conditions were slippery snow stuff lol
     
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    I got 40k out of my stock tires. Pressures need to be 36 to 42 psi range or they will wear very uneven, with the driver side going bad first. Rotate every 5k with your oil change. I had about 0.100" of tread left on the outside edge, driver's side tires.

    Hydroplaning is PRIMARILY dependent on tire air pressure. 36 psi gives a THEORETICAL hydroplaning speed of 54 mph-above this in standing water and you will be hydroplanning. ( Square root of tire pressure X 9= max speed before hydroplanning)
     
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    well this wasn't water
     
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    flareak,
    What was that "crack" between two rubber islands I can see in your photos? Did you do side-to-side rotation? Usually, front-to-rear rotation is recommended to avoid such cracking. Just for that cracking, I would change out the tires. :(
     
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    I get new shoes tomorrow. Replacing the Integrities with ComfortTreads. I'll post comparisons between the two tires for you.
     
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    here's the deal. I was in Japan/Taiwan when the first service was supposed to be done so...

    My dad, who loves to do things himself, takes the liberty of NOT doing the tire rotation for the first service at 5k.

    My 10k Service was done at a dealership and they did the rotation. I don't know what kind of rotation they did

    and, i dont know about cracks. blarghaghah

    thanks dad!!!
     
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    i see the crack now. first picture?
     
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    I got my car in 04' and follow the service religiously, at 20k I noticed the tires were blading.. The LR on the inside edge, RR on the outside edge, LF on the outside edge & RF on the inside edge.. I asked the dealer about this and they said the car was severly out of alignment.

    I asked them how that could be as they did an alignment at 10k??? I replaced the tires, they wanted $$$ for the tires I left and went to a discount store only to find out the tires are not readily stocked. I then had to get H rated 195/65/r15's for $190.00 instead.

    Now the cars handling is so responsive you have to be careful when you nudge the wheel or you might end up in the trees. I have noticed definate increase in road noise since I changed the tires, I then asked the tire dealer about that, they told me the tires that were taken off were touring tires and that they do not make a lot of noise and have a softer ride..

    My wife has stated she thinks the mileage readings have changed also..?
    Aside from that the car runs and drives great.. :rolleyes:
     
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    flareak, the cracking is obvious in both photos unless I am mistaken somehow.

    priusguy04, tires are all about tade-offs. noise, handling, wet/dry/snow traction, hydroplaning, tread-wear, temperature endurance, etc. You pick a tire that best fits your driving situations. Goodyear Integrity, seems to me, was designed with LRR (low rolling resistance) and tranquility in mind. They don't last very long because the tires are narrow for a 2900lb vehicle with heavy front end.
     
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    i see one in the first picture two "islands" from the arrow at 12 o'clock. i'm not sure i see one in the second tire.
     
  20. Tideland Prius

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    It shouldn't be a problem. I did my first rotation at 16,000kms. The thing is, here in Canada, a tyre rotation isn't due til the 4th service (32,000kms), that's waay to long before the first rotation so I did mine earlier.