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38 mpg on trip from LA to Miami in a 2010 Prius IV - 107k Miles

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Fuel Economy' started by Actor with a Prius, Dec 26, 2013.

  1. Actor with a Prius

    Actor with a Prius '10 Prius : 50 mpg & '90 Nissan 300ZX TT : 5 mpg

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    Well, this is a very opinionated site! I love it! =)

    I didnt mean to hit a nerve about the EPA testing. i was just saying that maybe the EPA testing is grandma driving the car, I dont know. Then again, I do have a heavy foot and am the guy trying to beat everyone else to the next red light. so....**** me on that one.

    So, l figured I'd try and drive a little better. I fueled up the day I wrote this post, or after. And drove with that push and glide thing, used the EV mode and tried to keep it under the middle line of the indicator thingie.

    First, I averaged 56.0 mpg. Then, yesterday I was in a bit of a hurry, (since I'm hispanic and always run late everywhere :ROFLMAO:) and it went down to 49.0 mpg. Then last night, again in a bit of a hurry, I got home with 48.6mpg. Much improvement over 38 mpg driving cross country.

    I'm not sure if my tires are LRR tires or not, but I do notice going around 60-ish mph, the instant mpg thing reads around 60-70 mpg, as long as I'm not accelerating. I figure this car is a game, and as long as I'm not in a hurry, i can get much better gas mileage. It is kind of annoying for me as I am used to going 80 everywhere. lol

    Yes I know. I have a 1990 300ZX Twin Turbo with 501 rwhp and I get around 14.5-16.5 mpg. But damn is she fast !! :D
     
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  2. Actor with a Prius

    Actor with a Prius '10 Prius : 50 mpg & '90 Nissan 300ZX TT : 5 mpg

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    On another note, I'm having trouble with the search function on this site. I keep getting all kinds of results and not exactly what i want. (Yeah, I'm a newbie).

    I'm interested in putting some 17's on my car. I know it will decrease mpg, but wanted to get some info on how bad or whatever. I know the V comes with 17's and I remember reading a thread once when I first got the car, that those wheels weigh quite a bit and you can get wheels that arent as heavy and keep the epa 50mpg.

    So, could someone link me to a thread or help me find out the info on upgrading the car to 17's? Maybe even lowering it? And, the advantages/disadvantages ?

    Thanks again everyone!
     
  3. bedrock8x

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    I know the feeling when your back is pinched to the seat back. It is well worth the cost of gas.



     
  4. mrstop

    mrstop PWR Mode

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    I think game is the best way to look at it. It's just a different game and state of mind then the 300Z TT (nice car BTW). Lot's of car guy's look down on it, but they don't quite get it.
     
  5. Actor with a Prius

    Actor with a Prius '10 Prius : 50 mpg & '90 Nissan 300ZX TT : 5 mpg

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    Yeah itsma game. Lol.
     
  6. B. Roberts

    B. Roberts Hypah Milah! Ayuh.

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    I just finished a 3,385 mile trip from Maine to Florida and back last month. Drove with traffic on way down and way back... 70 to 85 mph, which is crazy, but I was being passed all the time, so I wasn't anywhere near the fastest car on the road. Trip mpg was 48.4 and that's the lowest MPG I've ever achieved with this car. Got down as far as your neighbor Ft. Lauderdale.

    What brand and size tires are on your Prius?
    What tire pressures are you running?
    When did you last change your air filter?
    What oil's in your engine?
    How much stuff do you carry around in the car?

    Generally we buy a Prius to save fuel. You're paying a bit more for the hybrid technology initially to save money in the long run. If you want to do that, you have to change some of your driving habits. Being Hispanic doesn't count as an excuse!!:) (by the way, in our family we call being late "Hispanic panic!") Leave a little earlier. Less prone to get into a bad accident too. Roads are too crowded and too many people are driving distracted by texting/internet/and all kinds of activities not related in any way to driving.

    At least you noticed that if you slow up a tad, that you can get great MPG in your Prius! If you up the tire/wheel size to 17 inches, MPG will go down, unless you find very light wheels and LRR tires to go on them.
     
  7. Actor with a Prius

    Actor with a Prius '10 Prius : 50 mpg & '90 Nissan 300ZX TT : 5 mpg

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    Well, here goes....

    I dont know what brand tires I have. I know when I was driving from NY to Oregon, I changed my tires and my mpg dropped drastically! I didnt know anything about LRR.

    Now my friend that had my car changed the two front tires. Not sure what brand.
    They are the stock 15's tho, which I am going to change to 17 soon.

    Not sure what tire pressure either. Last I checked I put what it said on the door. 36 ?

    No idea when the air filter was last changed.
    Whatever synthetic oil they recommend at jiffy lube ?
    During the drive the car was pretty stacked. My girl and I. 2 full suitcases of clothes (less than 50lbs each though), a smaller travel case with shoes in it, an alto saxophone (15-20lbs), a 12" subwoofer in box, and probably an extra 20lbs of clothing.

    So yeah, it was a heavy load.

    I'm going to take it to toyota to do a maintenance on it. I'll make sure they take care of the air filter.
     
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    That's fab, my mate never manages much better than 47 MPG, but that might be his sporty driving, I told him don't buy a Prius, you're not going to save much, certainly not with all the extra electrical systems which undoubtedly cost more in servicing.
     
  9. B. Roberts

    B. Roberts Hypah Milah! Ayuh.

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    Next time you go out to your car, take a look at your tires... they will have a brand and some kind of model name on them. That will add some pieces to this story.

    Tires lose about a pound of air per tire per month on average. Tire pressure goes down by 1 PSI per every 10 degrees of outside air temperature drop, and the go up by 1 PSI every 10 degrees of outside air temperature gain. Maximum "cold" (a tire not driven on at least 3-5 hours) tire pressure is printed on the individual tire and should never be exceeded. If your tire can handle it, and you live in an area where roads are pretty smooth, you can go over recommended PSI indicated on the car sticker by a few pounds safely. Again, this tire pressure is measured while the tire is cold, before being driven any distance and has been parked for those 3-5 hours. I run 40 PSI front and 38 PSI rear most of the time. Maximum tire pressure listed on my tire (Yokohama Avid S33D) is 44 PSI. It does help MPG.

    The load you carried on that trip was way less than what I had on board during my trip. A lot of people use their cars as storage bins on a daily basis, so hope you don't do that. Usually these guys and gals will complain about their MPG... without thinking that extra the weight left in the car causes more fuel usage as you transport it around.

    A clogged intake air filter can be very detrimental to MPG. Service department will replace it if needed. Ask your Toyota Service Manger to please use the recommended 0W20 sythetic oil that Toyota recommends for a Prius.

    Low Rolling Resistance tires can help add a few MPG to a Prius. Not all LRR tires are the same. In any case, even with an LRR tire, it is likely that a 17 inch wheel tire combination will not quite get the same mileage that you get from the 15" Prius wheel/tire combination, but your Prius will look a lot better. That's for sure.

    I put a 16 inch wheel/Summer tire on my 2005 Prius. It looked way better, but did lower the gas mileage a little. Make sure you get the right offset, if it's an aftermarket wheel. I think a 42mm offset puts the tire at the edge of the car. I've seen a few Prius on aftermarket wheels that push the tire outside the body (wheel well) by a few millimeters... and it doesn't look very good. Just FYI.

    Here's the old Prius with aftermarket wheels...[​IMG] It did improve the way this car handled.

    Will be interested to hear if you find any improvement in MPG. Good luck!!
     
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    Nope. See the study at the bottom of this page: Gas Mileage Tips - Keeping Your Vehicle in Shape
    The service department would like to replace it either way, that's what rakes in the dough.
     
  11. B. Roberts

    B. Roberts Hypah Milah! Ayuh.

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    Interesting... but think I would still make sure that this maintenance has been completed. All dealerships are different... and I agree that replacing items that don't need replacement definitely makes extra money for service departments.

    I don't know if this car has been maintained by Toyota or other mechanic, and remember that OP stated he left this car with a friend for some time.

    Consider a modern fuel injected car (Prius) with a significantly dirty air filter, being driven by someone with a heavy foot. Engine response is knocked down due to the intake restriction, so driver simply pushes go pedal deeper to restore response. In a Prius, this condition would definitely result in lower MPG figures.
     
  12. Actor with a Prius

    Actor with a Prius '10 Prius : 50 mpg & '90 Nissan 300ZX TT : 5 mpg

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    Great ! Thanks for the info ! I will do the maintenance with the recommended oil and change the filter and report back.

    Do you happen to know what the stock 15 wheel weight is ? I asked on another thread but no one answered lol.

    I found some 17x7's that weigh 16 lbs each. Figure with some low profile lrr tires it should be okay. I think the offset is +45 tho
     
  13. B. Roberts

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    Offset +45 is good... +42 is close to being too far to the edge, so 45 is good. 16 lb weight for a 17" wheel is excellent, too. When you find a tire for it... and put it all together, you'll need to post a picture of the set up for us.
     
  14. Actor with a Prius

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    Sorry it is actually 18 lbs a wheel. Another is 18.5lbs
     
  15. B. Roberts

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    A 17 inch wheel at 16-19 pounds isn't considered "heavy". 20-25 pounds would be heavy territory. The lighter the wheel the better in any case. Check and see if at 16 inch wheel wouldn't do. Might find one that's lighter and still looks good... a compromise size kind of.
     
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    I have found that I have to change plugs in my 2003 prius to keep the milage up when the milage started to drop the first time at about 50000 miles I started looking and changed everything filter wise and checked then when I changed plugs the milage came back up the one my wife drives is a 2005 with 86000 mi and have not changed plugs in it but it gets high 40s to low 50s mpg