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Stopping wheel-to-hub rusting

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Daryl K, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. Daryl K

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    Has anyone found an effective way to halt or prevent the wheels rusting to the hub?

    I am a firm believer in winter tires, especially on my 2012 Prius (the LRR tires may as well be greased baloney skins on wet snow). After two winter storms in four days this past week, all well after the start of spring (typical springtime in NE Ohio) I felt confident enough to swap back to my standard Prius alloy wheels and summer tires over the weekend, and it was the usual 10 minutes of kicking the wheel/tire to get it off, especially on both fronts (the backs were not as bad).

    Over the years I've tried a few different things from silicone spray to liberally gooping anti-seize everywhere the wheel and hub come into contact (what I tried last fall when putting on my snow tires), and all helped not one bit I could discern. I think the road conditions here are just to brutally corrosive, with all of the salt they dump on the road.

    Has anyone found anything effective that helps? I always eventually get it off, but sitting on the garage floor and kicking the wheel repeatedly kinda gets old and starts to hurt your foot after a while. :)
     
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    I bought a spray can of zinc oxide from an auto repair supplies catalog. I use it on the brake calipers and rotors, and on the wheel hubs. I never have to kick or cuss at tire rotation time - the wheels always fall off in my hand as the last lug nut comes off. An annual or semi-annual light touch-up is all that's needed after the initial application.
     
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    i have the problem too but turns out it is my alloy wheels, not my steels. rubber mallot helps ;)
     
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    I'm leary about putting lubricant on any part where it's spinning and centrifugal force might cause it to migrate onto the discs and/or pads.

    Our aluminum rims stuck royally the first few times. There's a guy on on YouTube, Eric the Car Guy, with all sorts of good tips. Fine tuning one of his tips, when you've got a stuck rim, and the car's securely raised with the wheel an inch or so clear of a slab:

    1. leave one lug nut on, near the top of the pattern, on loosely. (just so the wheel doesn't go flying ;))
    2. place a scrap of 2x4 on edge, behind the inside face of the stuck wheel, against the tire.
    3. lay a sledge hammer (bigger the better) on the flat, maybe 3 feet behind the 2x4
    4. just sliding it across the slab, swing it into the 2x4 at bottom/centre of wheel, with a goodly amount of force

    This invariably works first time for me.

    I believe it's disimilar metals, ie aluminum and steel, causing the sticking. It's are alloy rims that are sticking prone, never a problem with the steel rims of our snow tires.

    And over time I think the problem has eased: the alloy rim (mostly aluminum) builds up a thin corrosive crust, and then sticks a lot less.
     
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  5. PriusGuy32

    PriusGuy32 Prius Driver Extraordinaire

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    Oh cool, I thought I was the only one with this problem!!! My rims get corroded/stuck very badly. :mad: The first time I removed them to put on my winter tires, I thought I was going to have to bring it in to a tire shop.

    To get the wheels off when they are stuck, I: Loosen the lug nuts but not too much. Maybe 5 turns. Then I jack that end of the car up off the ground and then slowly let the jack down. If it doesnt go POP and come loose then, I get in the car and move it back and forth over a hump in my driveway. This has always worked for me. (y)

    I take marine grease that I use for my boat (water resistant, VERY sticky) and spread a light coating on the back of the rim where it meets the hub or the rear drum. I cannot comment about its efficacy yet though.
     
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    ^ I used to use the lower the car with loosened lug nuts method. It's pretty dependable, once in a while I had to lower and kinda bounce the car with my weight too. But it's a hassle: if you've just got the car up on jackstands, to have to undo all that. I like the sledge hammer method now: also very dependable, and you can leave the car on the jackstands.
     
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    Hmm, never tried dropping it (or driving it) with nuts on very loose. I like that idea and will give it a try next winter when changing tires back again.

    Thanks for the suggestions!
     
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    Its always worked for me very well. Good luck! (y)
     
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    When I take my wheels off the first time on any car I own, I clean off all the rust from the raised circular lip on the hub with a Scotchbrite pad and scrub the inside of the wheel where it hits the hub. I then smear a light coat of disc-brake wheel bearing grease on the inside of the wheel where it hits the lip on the hub. That treatment will last for years and the wheels will never lock on.
     
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    Car polish seems to help too. And no chance of migrating onto brake pads.

    With snow tires on separate rims in our regimin, one set or the other is always sitting the garage. I make a point of polishing the off-the-car set each time, and wax a bit on the interior portion as well, just the contact zone.