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Red triangle, VSC, Check engine - Can I drive it 10 miles?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Shawnna, Jan 1, 2015.

  1. Shawnna

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    My beloved 2006 Prius with about 117,000 miles on it needs to go to the shop (I'm not a DIY mechanic). As I was driving home yesterday from work, all of the sudden the red triangle, VSC, check engine and a little car with an exclamation point on it on the display came on about 2 miles from home. There also appeared a kind of wind sound from the passenger rear area when this happened.

    I drove it home and pulled in the driveway. Lights, radio, etc all work. I stopped it for about 30 minutes and then started it up again to pull it in the garage (all warning lights still on).

    My question is can I drive it safely to my wonderful mechanic's shop about 10-15 miles from my house (assuming it starts)? I don't want to further damage anything.

    Or should I call a tow truck?

    Thanks in advance for your help.
     
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    It sounds like your HV battery may have failed. If you are in WA, your warranty is also expired. However due to the low mileage on your car, you may be able to ask Toyota HQ for some assistance in replacement. You would first have to bring it to Toyota to get it diagnose.

    If the car is driving ok, you can probably drive it to your trusted mechanic. You can reset the car by disconnecting the negative terminal on your 12v battery for about 10 seconds. This should reset the car when you reconnect it. The car's computer will have to pick up the car's problem before the lights come back on.
     
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    do you have any pets?
     
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    Thank you! I made it to the shop without incident. My goal is to drive one million miles on the car (I have a long commute) so I'm going to fix it and keep it in good condition.
     
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    Sadly Washington State has a worthless CARB Adoption: Starts 2009 model year, but doesn't get the longer 10yr/150,000mile HV Battery warranty. You only get the Federal warranty of 8yr/100,000miles.

    Make sure the HV battery fan gets cleaned if a new or rebuilt HV battery pack is installed.

    If you plan to keep the Prius a lot longer, hopefully you have been getting the transaxle drain/fill at 60,000mile intervals (ideally shorter intervals). This link contains emperical evidence on importance of changing the transaxle fluid.

    Since you will likely be diagnosed with an HV Battery failure, do as JC recommends and contact Toyota for any assistance. Best case you pay a percentage of the total repair bill. If they won't give you any break and you can DIY, you should be able to save quite a lot on the labour side and a little on the part side by ordering a battery (but you'll have to pick-up as most dealers no longer ship the HV Battery), then install yourself or have a shop do it for you. It's possible that the current dealer that has your car might price match another Toyota dealers online price for a HV battery.

    Good luck.
     
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    Thank you both! I'll post the outcome after the diagnosis comes in probably tomorrow.
     
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    Shawnna, I would be interested in who your trusted shop is. Or, if anyone else reading this can recommend a good shop or dealer service in the South Sound area, I would be most appreciative. My 2006 with just under 150K miles just channeled Shawnna's car tonight, and exhibited exactly the same conditions. I'm a DIYer, but I guess I have to take her to someone to get the codes pulled, and it would be great to start someplace with a good rep!
     
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    I've used Central Avenue Automotive in Kent for literally decades. And they've taken care of my beloved Prius since I've owned her. Blake Walker is the owner but all the guys there are really terrific to work with. Tell him Shawnna referred you. He's extremely trustworthy and I've never, ever had a complaint about any work they've done. Their number is (253) 854-6762. Here's their website: Auto Repair Kent Wa | Brake Repair | Mechanic
     
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    wow, that almost never happens. all the best to both of you.(y)
     
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    Thank you, I will contact them!

    Thanks. I just can't believe the timing either. The dashboard full-o-lights happened when my wife was on the way to get a new starter for our other vehicle, so now I have 2 crippled vehicles in the driveway... I just picked up a new 12V for the Prius this morning since she has the 11 year old OEM in her now, about to install that. I KNOW it was going out, and had planned to replace it week after next anyway. I'm hoping she had confused systems due to the nearly-dead AUX battery, so we'll see what happens with the new juice.
     
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    Well I wouldn't be surprised if the 12v battery is causing your warning lights. It may be fixed once you put the battery in
     
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    Yes, the "dashboard full-o-lights" syndrome has many causes. Replacing an 11 year old battery would likely be a good place to start.
     
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    I'm betting this is the inverter coolant pump. I had these exact same symptoms when mine failed. Have them check the inverter coolant reservoir for flow/turbulence. I'm betting there is none.
     
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    Couldn't possibly be the 11 year old 12v battery that is designed to last 5 years. And that you CAN replace yourself. Whatever you do, replace the most expensive, unlikely part first. Do not change oil, do not replace filters,do not replace tires, do not let the owners' manual or logic enter your decision.
     
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    There are 2 users with similar symptoms.......not 1 user.

    The AGM batteries are actually designed to last longer than 5 years, some actually go 8 years without problems. It's just how well you maintain it while it's in service. Most enthusiasts on this site suggest you replace at 5 years, just so you won't get stranded. Doesn't mean the battery is dead at 5 years.
     
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    Some people choose to run out of gas and act surprised. Some people choose to use batteries beyond their design life and act surprised. To each his own.
     
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    You sound like you need a hug so......................... (((hug))). :LOL:
     
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    Actually the 2006 battery is not 11 years old, it's only 9 years old.....which makes more sense. Not sure I've read about a battery going 11 years yet.
     
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    Ok - it looks like it's the HV battery. Does anyone know where I can get a decent replacement with a warranty? I've got a quote for it at $2,400 - just for the battery. Any help or insight would be most welcome. :cry::cry::cry:

    PS - I did call Toyota but they are closed for the holiday so I can't get them until Monday - which I will definitely try. I'm just assuming worse case as it does have 116,955 miles on it.
     
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    I believe you have a very good case to get assistance from Toyota. Wait til Monday and make the call.

    $2400 for a NEW battery is a good price, but it's expensive for a new refurbished battery.