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Best aftermarket cat. converter?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Cayslayer, Jan 13, 2015.

  1. Cayslayer

    Cayslayer New Member

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    Evidently, I need a new one, but absolutely cannot afford the $2k for the OEM part.
    Has anyone out there had good luck with one that will run me under $300?
     
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    If you live in a state that does not require an OEM unit from Toyota, then any reputable "Muffler Shop" can hook you up. The local market will determine fair price, but $500 and less is not unheard of for a generic aftermarket unit in Texas. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but last I heard your screwed in California. Click on you screen name and update your location to help us better help you.
     
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    NH does not require the OEM part, but the service guy at the dealer (who told me I needed one) did mention that not every cat. would work on a Prius, and that my check engine light would come back on very soon after installing it. Is that not true?
     
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    This is not true. Some modification may be required for a generic unit to fit, but a reputable shop includes that in their cost. This is just the Dealership "Service Adviser" just trying to scare you into paying their outrageous price, part of which he or she makes a commission from.
     
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    Well, thank you for the input. That's awesome news.
    I will say, though, that the service guy was actually very straightforward and sympathetic. He undercharged me for the diagnostic and then went on to recommend a reputable muffler shop that would be able to do the job cheap, provided I found a suitable part. I guess that's why I took his word for it. Thanks again!
     
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    What codes were retrieved for the replacement of the cat? As often the O2 censer in the exhaust can give this problem. Also what millage is on the car, and how much oil do you have to use to top up?

    John (Britprius)
     
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    P0420 - I had the codes checked before I went to the dealer, so when I had the diagnostic done I specifically asked that they rule out a bad sensor or the like. He told me it was "100% a bad cat."
    The car has 160k on it. I'm a heavy commuter (650 miles a week), and it does tend to burn through at least a qt. of oil every 5,000 miles. As to why that's happening, I have no idea.
     
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    Cats don't last forever. Also, I would shop around for an installer instead of just going to the place recommended by the Adviser...but I'm sure you already knew that.
     
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    Just thought it worth checking, but at that millage, and with some oil use I guess the cat is likely. It is notable that the Prius does tend to use oil at reasonably high millage. However a qt in 5000 miles is not considered high.
    My own car is not using any measurable oil using 0w-20 oil at 10,000 mile oil changes at 112,000 miles. I do keep a close eye on the level just in case.

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    My boyfriend has offered to do the install, actually.. he's really more of a hot rod guy, though. Not too up on the newfangled computer-car contraptions. Do you happen to know if there are any Prius-specific things he'd have to know before replacing it?
    For example.. he saved me a ton of money this summer by replacing a wheel bearing, but was unaware (as was I) that the battery should have been disconnected before doing so. I also don't want it to be a pain in the butt for him, and would rather pay for the work if the potential is high or it to get confusing or over-involved.
     
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    The biggest problem is removing the 2 censers to change the cat. These often seize in due to the heat cycles of the exhaust and require thin wall sockets to get to them.

    John (Britprius)
     
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    We can not speculate your boyfriends abilities and tooling so that's your call. This is a federally regulated smog item though, so consider your options accordingly. Some pipe welding "may" be required, as it was on my truck when I had a shop install an aftermarket Cat.
     
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    I should have added there is no specific electrical problem when changing the cat but it would be prudent to disconnect the 12 volt battery.

    John (Britprius)
     
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    What mileage are people seeing cat failures?
     
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    exhaust system is the same as any other modern car. if he knows how to use an acetylene torch, it will not be difficult for him.
     
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    My friend Tom has 145000 miles now, but I believe his CEL illuminated sometime around 115,000 miles with the dreaded bad catalytic converter code.

    I have 95500 miles and Im still good (knocks on wood), but when I check the live data on Techstream, it doesnt seem the catalyst is very efficient - there is a data field that measures efficiency of the catalyst and the number was really low IMO. I wouldnt be surprised if mine went bad in the next 20000 miles.
     
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    Has anybody tried to connect capacitor parallel to second o2-sensor (maybe also resistor in between sensor and capacitor) to get that catalyst capacity (calculation) up?
     
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    How does the Prius drive when it needs a new cat? Is passing gov. tests the reason why a cat has to be replaced, or can they just keep on going indefinitely with a bad cat??
     
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    Bad catalytic converter doesn’t effect drivability or fuel consumption unless it’s clogged up. If it’s still cleaning exhaust but just not enough for ecu then it’s not clogged.

    If it’s really clogged you ca drill hole thought it. Even with hole drilled through it can still probably pass some sort of emission test as long as you can find a way to get rid of fault code.
     
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