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What's with the Dealers on Ebay?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by rmauro, Jan 22, 2004.

  1. rmauro

    rmauro New Member

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    How come the Toyota Dealers, that auction their cars on Ebay, know everything and most Dealers don't? There is a dealer auctioning off a White Package 9 car, it is in transit to the states, and they give the Vin number ( so it's real). It's to arrive in late March! I can't get any info out of my dealer and this dealer knows the car is comming more than 2 months in advance. Do some dealers have an inside track with Prius logistics from Toyota??

    -Rich
     
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    Is this on ebay? Can't seem to locate any 04's up for bid there at the present time.
     
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    It was, but the auction is over and no one met the reserve. One of them was up to 27,001 and it still didn't win.

    They looked like real VIN numbers.
     
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    I saw that last night myself.

    There is no way (that I'm aware of) that they would have a VIN for a March arrival. Knowing the tough lack of supply situation, I doubt that they even have that unit available.

    I should have written down the VIN and did an inquiry today. (Can't access ebay at work due to firewall police)
     
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    Steve -

    You might want to try http://www.badblue.com/helpofs.htm

    It's good stuff for those of us that actually use some of these sites that are blocked to get work done.
     
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    I stand corrected. It is a real Prius. Still in A status.

    It's coming to the Southeast Toyota region.....they are a private distributor and I have no clue how their system works.
     
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    Steve,

    Pardon my ignorance but, what exactly is a "private distributor"? More specifically, how is it that this distributor has the ability to offer the car directly to the public?
     
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    I think he means that the SE Distributorship is privately owned, by one family. Every car in the SE has a $x,xxx markup on the cars because the SE says so.
     
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    I didn't notice a special markup.

    $565 in delivery-type charges were added to the Base price, but I think Toyota mentions $20,560 as the MSRP in a lot of ads now.

    What I noticed was you can't get a Toyota extended warranty from them. JM&A owns the SE, and http://www.jmfamily.com/ is their website.

    A Google search on "JM&A warranty" is not all good news...
     
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    But that's part of what I don't quite understand.

    These "Distributorships" exist to "distribute" cars to dealers, right? Isn't that their sole function?
     
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    From what i know about the distributorships, they handle a lot more than just distributing cars. They handle all of the regional advertising for the area dealerships, they charge basically what amounts to "franchise fees" to be a part of the region, they handle cars coming into port, adding POIs(port installed options), etc.
     
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    Yes, Southeast and Gulf States are distributors to the dealers in those regions.

    I don't know the entire history, but Southeast Toyota and Gulf States Toyota were set up when Toyota was trying to establish itself in the US. Jim Moran is the grand pooh-bah of Southeast Toyota and his decison to go with Toyota was probably one of the best business decisions in the last half-century. However, I think some customers in that area may disagree.

    The private distributors control all Toyota inventory for their respective regions. Quite often they offer different accessories and a variety of add-on's including the now infamous Toyo-Guard.

    In the ebay listing I didn't mean to imply that the distributor was listing the car - just they they may have better "visibility" of incoming inventory than other areas.
     
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    That makes sense. What doesn't is a distributorship offering to sell a car directly to the public (like the one on ebay).......little bit of a conflict of interest there, I think..........
     
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    The curious things about that car(s) that were up:
    (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=2455783423 and http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=2455784276)

    They were both fully loaded. The first auction ended with a bid of $27,001 with the reserve not met. I have no idea how much the minimum price on this car was.

    The seller "[email protected]" has positive feedback ... but for selling purses. I could find no record of this seller ever successfully listing a car on ebay.

    The description said the car was not in the country yet - and wouldn't be until March. How come the miles listed were 50?

    Anyway, there's another one up there now from a different seller in NC - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=2456143561
     
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    Re: It's baacck!

    Yep, but this time the exterior color is listed as "green"! Strange, isn't it?
     
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    This guy is scamming....
    Dianne just found out that she has 8 cars allocated this month...she has NO IDEA how many are allocated for March and she sure as hell doesn't have a VIN number for anything coming in March, she doesn't even have VIN numbers or colors or anything for stuff coming this month. And I can promise you there is no one out there selling the Prius that's better informed than she is.

    This has got to be some dealer gambling that he'll get a package #9 in green (or white, or something) by March and hoping to sell it for a sickening profit to someone desperate enough to pay for a car that doesn't really exist yet.

    This is really despicable.
    :pukeright: :pukeleft:
     
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    I concur. Somehow, though, he seems to have figured out a way to get real VINs so as to make the fact that he's scamming less transparent.
     
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    How do you know it's a real VIN? Are you sure he's not just extrapolating from recent ones?