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DTC P0128 and No Heater

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Mr.Electricfusion, May 10, 2015.

  1. Mr.Electricfusion

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    Hi.

    I have a used 2009 Gen II with 117k miles. While taking a trip to from the central part of California over to Los Angeles and climbing a high hill on the five, a yellow triangle came on the monitor with the word problem. Now I was going slow up the hill 55mph. I never experienced it with any other car. The battery went to purple and heater did not work.

    After pressing the problem triangle it would turn to a thermometer signal. So i assume that the car is over heating. I make i to Los Angeles but then i hear a hum after shutting off the car. It's the pump running much louder.

    I fill the radiator with correct fluid from the dealer and I'm thinking that the monitor warning came on only because of the fluid level. No warnings from then on.

    So I buy a mini VCI and it has p0128 logged. So I'm thinking that the thermostat doesn't work. However I hear fluid moving from time to time. One day before a trip in the cool morning (around 55 degrees), I open the radiator cap to make sure it's full. It shoots up like a fountain, there was pressure/air in it.

    So How do I address the p0128 problem and the no heater problem?

    I've read threads on trapped air and valve failure but I'm not what could be the source.

    To summarize:
    1) No heater
    2) DTC p0128
    3) Loud pump when turning off car
    4) Engine shaking at cold start
    5) No further warnings on the monitor.

    Thanks for helping out a new Prius owner ( i enjoy the mileage btw)
     
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    welcome to priuschat! could be clogged, have you had a flush and fill? maybe change out the thermostat. how's the water pump? serpentine belt? all the best!(y)
     
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    Hearing fluid move from time to time, sounds like the engine cooling loop, in the radiator, was low to being with. You confirmed this by having to refill it. You thought the system was full, but it was not, as you still heard sloshing (fluid movement) sounds, after this top off. Air was still in the system before and after you refilled it. If all air was gone, you wouldn't hear any sloshing sounds. Additional air has been introduced into the engine cooling loop as you opened a hot and pressurized system.

    Bentley states:
    P0128 = Coolant Thermostat (Coolant temperature below thermostat regulating temperature
    Possible trouble areas:
    • thermostat
    • cooling system
    • engine coolant temperature sensor
    • ECM
    Since the engine cooling loop now has air in the system; unfortunately you did not wait long enough for the radiator/engine to cool before removing the radiator cap. Drain the engine cooling loop. Replace the thermostat. Test the old thermostat to see if this was the culprit. If the old thermostat opens at the designated temperature, then move down the trouble tree to the next item.

    Was the inverter coolant ever changed? If no, change it out now, since the car is up, and you are already doing the engine loop.

    You ever check the inverter coolant level? Do you see "turbulance" in the inverter coolant reservoir, when the car is IGnition-ON?
     
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    I opened the rad cap when it was cool in the morning. I never opened it hot. I'm sure there's air in it though.

    Im not sure if ther inverter fluid was ever changed but there is turbulence and its full.

    Is Bentley a manual? If so do you recommend it?

    Thanks for the reply.
     
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    So, if there is air in the system, why do you just not "burp" the system and get all the air out? It is probably all that is required. Also the possibility exists you have a leak, have you checked the engine coolant pump for signs of a leak?
     
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    I don't think there's a leak. but how could I confirm this?

    Could you link me towards a thread that covers burbing the system? Would this account for no heater or a P0128 DTC to come up? I have not had any warnings since I topped off the radiator.

    exstudent, could a bad thermostat prevent the coolant from entering into the thermos canister after shut off? I ask because it seems like the pump is running but no fluid is coming going in. It sounds louder since there warnings but not squealing.
     
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    One common place is the engine coolant pump. Check around there for a pinkish residue. I only suggested a leak as a reason why there is air in your system. Do you know of any reason for there to be air to be in the system?
    There are many threads on this subject by Patrick Wong (such as this one). There are also posts on how to get the air out of the CHS tank. If you use the search box at the top right of the page and search for change engine coolant posted by Patrick Wong and you will get plenty of reading on the subject.

    It is possible that with air in the system and it not circulating properly that it could cause both problems, the heater one in particular. If you purge the system of air, you could then see what problems, if any, persist.
     
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    1. I suggest that you replace the radiator cap now, using the correct Toyota part. When the radiator is cold and you remove the radiator cap, you should not receive a surprise as you did.

    2. I also suggest that you need to purge the air out of the engine coolant system. The cabin heater not working is indicative that coolant is not circulating adequately through that portion of the engine coolant system.

    3. My post here explains how to replace the engine coolant pump and thermostat. An embedded post explains how to purge the air out, which is not simple and requires you to run the coolant heat recovery system pump. Since you have Mini VCI you can utilize the command to run that pump, if you like.
    How to replace engine coolant pump and thermostat | PriusChat

    4. After you are sure that no air remains in the engine coolant loop, then if you still have DTC P0128, you will need to replace the thermostat which apparently is stuck open. If you have a handheld instant read infrared thermometer, you can use that to measure the temperature of the radiator hoses and the cylinder head, to see what the temperature is. Normal operating temperature will be ~185 degrees F.
     
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    Thanks Patrick. I never tried the heater again since that hill. I thought that the valve was stuck. However, today in the morning I tried it. It works! I'll proceed with changing out the cap and going from there.