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  1. Mystery Squid

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    I like how now it's the war on Islam instead of the war on terror.

    Oh and that the tapes of United 93 justify invading Iraq (not Afghanistan, Iraq).
     
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    This administration changes excuses faster than a third grader changes underwear.
     
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    When I read that bush has found a few lacky generals who "support his quest to eliminate fundameltist islamists" guess what my first thought was? Exactly how would the US react if a foreign invader came here to eliminate the fundamelists? And BTW I would personally be out on the street showering them with flowers, and I know I would not be alone. PLEASE MR> UN send the world's policemen here...we could use untainted elections, fair and balanced news and no hate driven fundamentalism creating a wedge between our people.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MarinJohn @ Apr 18 2006, 11:56 AM) [snapback]241510[/snapback]</div>
    :rolleyes: This a BIT of a difference between harmless fundamentalists who would like you to join them as opposed to killing you if you don't. When was the last time religious fundamentalists in the U.S. assigned the death penalty for switching religions?

    Be thankful this country allows you to post this without throwing you in jail or killing you. Be thankful you can fight the IRS and WIN if you don't agree with your tax bill. Be thankful your communities can unite against a Walmart, blah, blah, blah...

    at least jayman put his money where his mouth is and went to Canada.

    Last I knew, the border is still open....

    ;)

    Image:

    marinjohn and similar ilk standing outside their houses showering invading troops with flowers... Two weeks later, his house has been assigned to an Officer, and he has 24hrs to vacate... marinjohn, confident he can reason with the new authority, goes to the office of the local governor to work something out.... , and is told (in broken English) to not worry, for the relocation truck will pick him up tomorrow morning at 7am sharp... :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Apr 18 2006, 11:47 AM) [snapback]241530[/snapback]</div>
    At the time, I had some doubts. But with deranged NeoCon nuts running the United States into the ground, I'll never go back except for the rare visit. The NeoCon element has Trotsky written all over it, with a heavy tint of Goebbels.

    Ironically, my net income has *increased* since moving to Canada. And I can even legally fly to Cuba and enjoy a genuine stogie
     
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    I've watched just enough History Channel to know that Rome and English platoons lost many battles because they were rigid when the enemy was flexible. The enemy wasn't lawless and uncivilized, just smart in how they address a well-structured enemy.

    Oh now THAT'S going to win some friends!
     
  8. Mystery Squid

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jayman @ Apr 18 2006, 01:27 PM) [snapback]241553[/snapback]</div>
    Heck, I don't think anyone reasonable can make a decision like that without SOME element of doubt...

    So how's Cuba anyway?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vortx21 @ Apr 18 2006, 08:30 AM) [snapback]241496[/snapback]</div>
    Conveniently leaving the “radical†out of “radical Islam†to try to help make a point?
    Yes, RADICAL Islam.
    It sure isn't a war on radical Buddhism, now is it. :rolleyes:

    So, have you locked your sister and mother in the house and blackened all the windows? If not, then DIE YOU INFIDEL!

    I see from prior posts and your web site that you are very much into music.
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(vortx21 @ Dec 28 2005, 01:53 PM) [snapback]180107[/snapback]</div>
    That doesn't look like music praising Allah to me. DEATH TO INFIDELS WHO SPREAD BLASPHEMOUS MUSIC!!!!

    Still feel you have no personal stake in the war on terror/radical Islam? :eek:
     
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    It starts to become hilarious with all these proclamations, declarations of wars.

    I wonder who's gonna receive the witten act of war in this case?

    war on "this" war on "that"

    :)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Apr 18 2006, 01:00 PM) [snapback]241578[/snapback]</div>
    Nice beaches, friendly folks, WAY cheaper than the Mexican hotspots, Caymans, or Aruba.

    I've bumped into a lot of Europeans (British, French, German, Swiss, etc) on the beaches there.

    Cheap booze and good stogies too
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jayman @ Apr 18 2006, 07:50 PM) [snapback]241785[/snapback]</div>
    Only one thing I've really been curious about Cuba: Do they still have a lot of cars from the 50's driving around?
     
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    Cuba: Another shining example of the wonders of communism.
    So, just how many people smuggle their way into Cuba with dreams of a better life? :unsure:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Apr 18 2006, 07:49 PM) [snapback]241824[/snapback]</div>
    Not as many as you might think, and most of them are in terrible shape. But the nice thing about simple vehicles (Breaker point ignition, carb, no electronics, etc) is that the average person has a good chance of keeping one running forever.

    My 1984 Ford F-150 is a good example of that: it's a Canadian market truck and the last year they built them with carbs: no catalytic converter, oversized fuel filler for leaded gas at the time, factory EGR block-off plate, etc. My parents had already moved back to Canada so I kept the truck registered at their address, then illegally drove it in Utah while going to college. No problem there, plenty of Canadian vehicles in SLC due to the U of U.

    I had plenty of trouble with the stock Motorcraft 2 bbl carb, so I ditched the stock cast iron intake and put on an Edelbrock 289 aluminum intake and Holley 390 cfm four barrel carb (Center hung float conversions on primary and secondary). I recently upgraded to an Edelbrock/Weber carb and it is much easier to adjust.

    I also had a lot of trouble with the Duraspark ignition module, so ditched that in '88. The distributer is a basic vacuum advance with magnetic pickup, so it was easy to add an aftermarket ignition box. I put in a Jacob's module and coil, and have never had trouble with it.

    Back to cars in Cuba, otherwise you find typical Euro market VW's and the like, but the most common car would be older Lada. Lada and Fiat entered into a partnership a long time ago, so the Lada is essentially a clone of the Fiat 124/126.

    If you want to see odd-looking heavy trucks, you'll find the Kamaz in Cuba too.

    Lada cars were also sold in Canada in the early 80's. Despite their rusting problem, a lot of owners liked them because they were very easy to maintain yourself. There are still a few chugging around Winnipeg, along with some Niva SUV's.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sufferin' Prius Envy @ Apr 18 2006, 11:23 PM) [snapback]241914[/snapback]</div>
    I guess you don't travel much. The same thing could be said of P.R.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jayman @ Apr 19 2006, 11:14 AM) [snapback]242068[/snapback]</div>
    True that...

    I know a guy who still daily drives like a 1928 or something (I know it's late 20's early 30's) Ford... simple square engine block (not sure of how many cylinders), with like old school mags, I think... lol Sort of like old mid-80's two stroke Kawi jet ski's... seize the engine? No problem! "break" it loose, and you'll be out on the lake again in 20 minutes!



    Great stuff!!

    Lada's in Cuba? I would have NEVER guessed that one... Well, then again, that really isn't that much of a surprise, being the Lada is Russian and all... When I visited Lithuania in 2000, and 2001, there was an 'abundance' of Lada's... What I noticed more though, as you brought up, were odd looking heavy trucks (Kamaz sounds familiar, I admit I wasn't paying attention to the brand names). Not only were they "odd", but scary as all hell... We're talking like tall, REALLY tall, weird tandems bellowing dark blue or black smoke, sometimes you'd think they were running on coal :lol: ... Anyway, I recall trucks as such HAULING nice person on the highways there, it's like little or no regulations, and the highways are a "free for all" for them... Really gives more weight to the phrase, "Stay the F away from those things..."
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Apr 19 2006, 11:24 AM) [snapback]242108[/snapback]</div>
    I'd take a guess it's a Model "A" with a flathead V8 putting out no more than 50-60 HP, which was a hotrod for its day. They were very easy to maintain and even rebuild, which was a good thing considering how much service they needed.

    No Check Engine issues there, and if the starter ever quit you could always try to hand crank it.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Apr 19 2006, 11:24 AM) [snapback]242108[/snapback]</div>
    Yep, due to typical narrow DIRT roads in Russia, the truck has to be tall and narrow. They also needed good ground clearance to not bog down in mud. Their diesel motors have really primative fuel injection so that explains the black smoke gushing out the pipe.

    The fuel quality in Russia is quite poor, so any system that can tolerate dirt/water and sulfur will live longer than a modern electronic system with very tight tolerances. Ford sold a bunch of Crown Vics to the Moscow police service around 10 years ago, and had to export them without O2 sensors or catalytic converters.

    Fuel quality in Western Europe is generally superior to North America, especially the diesel fuel. VW had a publicity stunt several years ago driving their VW Lupo 3L from NYC to LA to prove the fuel economy. The Lupo 3L has a tiny 3 cylinder turbodiesel that gets a rated 3 l/100km (94 MPG Imperial gallon).

    They had chase trucks with diesel fuel they brought over from Germany to refuel the cars inroute. Otherwise, the typical truckstop American diesel would have killed the motors. The VW Golf TDI sold in North America is really detuned compared to the EU version due to the poor quality diesel, especially the sulfur levels of +250 ppm vs 15 ppm in the EU.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jayman @ Apr 19 2006, 08:14 AM) [snapback]242068[/snapback]</div>
    Actually, I've been to both. That is if you consider Guantanamo Bay in the 1980's – Cuba.

    Are you sure you weren't thinking Haiti as a comparison to Cuba? A choice between those two, I just may choose Cuba. :unsure:

    Tell me you would actually subject yourself to living in Cuba, rather than Puerto Rico. :rolleyes:
    You who had left the United States for Canada (not a bad standards of living move). Come-on, fess up . . . you would demand to be the coxswain on the first available rubber raft heading 90 miles north to Key West. :lol:


    Puerto Rico
    Government type: Territory of the US with commonwealth status and citizenship.
    Economy – overview: Puerto Rico has one of the most dynamic economies in the Caribbean region. A diverse industrial sector has far surpassed agriculture as the primary locus of economic activity and income. Encouraged by duty-free access to the US and by tax incentives, US firms have invested heavily in Puerto Rico since the 1950s. US minimum wage laws apply. Sugar production has lost out to dairy production and other livestock products as the main source of income in the agricultural sector. Tourism has traditionally been an important source of income, with estimated arrivals of nearly 5 million tourists in 2004. Growth fell off in 2001-03, largely due to the slowdown in the US economy, and has recovered in 2004-2005.

    GDP - per capita (PPP): $18,500 (2005 est.)

    http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/rq.html

    Cuba may look nice when you go there on vacation, but then so is Disneyland. Behind the scene is where the grit lies. :blink:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sufferin' Prius Envy @ Apr 19 2006, 02:30 PM) [snapback]242184[/snapback]</div>
    so what are you saying, we shouldn't visit Cuba based on your info? This must be a joke.
    Sometimes when I read your responses I wonder if you are reading the same thread as I am reading as your responses are so irrelevant.
    Was someone actually talking about "people smuggling their way into Cuba with dreams of a better life"?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hybridTHEvibe @ Apr 19 2006, 11:52 AM) [snapback]242201[/snapback]</div>
    The logic is easy to follow, unless you wish to be ignorant or combative with your response.

    Squid: Be thankful this country allows you to post this without throwing you in jail or killing you. . . . at least jayman put his money where his mouth is and went to Canada.

    Jayman: At the time, I had some doubts . . . I'll never go back except for the rare visit. . . . Ironically, my net income has *increased* since moving to Canada. And I can even legally fly to Cuba and enjoy a genuine stogie.

    Squid: Heck, I don't think anyone reasonable can make a decision like that without SOME element of doubt... So how's Cuba anyway?

    Jayman: Nice beaches, friendly folks, WAY cheaper than the Mexican hotspots, Caymans, or Aruba.
    I've bumped into a lot of Europeans (British, French, German, Swiss, etc) on the beaches there.
    Cheap booze and good stogies too

    ME:Cuba: Another shining example of the wonders of communism.
    So, just how many people smuggle their way into Cuba with dreams of a better life?

    Jayman: I guess you don't travel much. The same thing could be said of P.R.

    ME: Cuba may look nice when you go there on vacation, but then so is Disneyland. Behind the scene is where the grit lies.

    YOU: so what are you saying, we shouldn't visit Cuba based on your info? This must be a joke.

    No, I'm not saying that, based on what I had posted - besides, since you don't have your location in your profile, I have no idea who the “we†are you are referring. If you are a US citizen, then NO, you shouldn't be visiting Cuba. There is a travel ban on Cuba for US citizens. If you disagree with the ban, then that is another subject.
    But, I do have issues with jayman holding up legally being able to visit Cuba as some great benefit of living in Canada (or any other country which allows visits to Cuba). CUBA IS A COMMUNIST STATE WHICH OPPRESSES ITS CITIZENS . . . to the point that many of them will risk their lives on rickety rafts to reach freedom. By vacationing in Cuba, jayman is helping keep a failed dictatorship afloat, and is helping keep the people of Cuba oppressed all that much longer. Of course it is “WAY cheaper than the Mexican hotspots, Caymans, or Aruba†- the workforce is forced and exploited labor. They are told where and when to work, and are paid at the whim of the state.

    Let's all go party in Cuba! Maybe we can have a PriusChat meet-up in Cuba and demonstrate to the peasants how we, as a group of world citizens, live and breath a social justice and environmentally conscious lifestyle. :rolleyes:
    C'mon people, it would be cheap . . . besides, the booze and cigars are excellent. <_<

    And jayman has the gall (or ignorance) to compare Cuba to Puerto Rico???? :unsure: Now there is your joke!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sufferin' Prius Envy @ Apr 22 2006, 03:28 PM) [snapback]243709[/snapback]</div>
    WOW you are a moron after all.