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Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by hill, Jul 14, 2015.

  1. cycledrum

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    Anyone else noticed diesel is cheaper than regular unleaded these days?
     
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    That's a regional thing, it's still more expensive than premium here on the east coast..
     
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    The prices are creeping up in Norcal but nowhere near SoCal prices. I almost traded in my Volt for a new Cherokee Trailhawk. Glad I didn't at the moment (gas prices and tranny issues) but unless some form of plug-in hybrid with real offroad capability comes online I'll be back to crying about gas prices again when I get a new car.
     
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    I presume that is fraction of Toyota sales ?
     
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    Hiya Justin :)

    Does the Subaru hybrid cover any of your off-road requirements ?
     
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    Hey buddy!

    The Crosstrek hybrid is sort of a joke in that it's not very efficient and it is slow as molasses. For the money I'd just buy the Subaru Forester which is what I'm currently considering unless the Jeep Renegade sorts out its transmission and wind noise issues. The regular Crosstrek would work well too. I just don't like the idea of paying the hybrid premium for the Crosstrek H and suffering with less performance and a marginal increase in efficiency. Rumor has it Subaru is going to do plug-in but I'm not sure which platform it will go on.
     
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    The Forester is an excellent car. However, I don't think the dealership will sell to people under 30 years old :p
     
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    No it is Hybrids (CA) / Hybrids (USA).
    Not sure about Toyota because what we don't have is public data on specific brand model sales per state.

    Hybrids (CA) is published quarterly by CNCDA.org
    Hybrids (USA) is published monthly ElectricDrive.org
     
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    Thanks, now I understand.

    30% of the hybrids sold in the US are sold in CA.
     
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    That's my 1Q2015 quote yes...it's trending higher used to be closer to 25%. Keep in mind Ca. is 11% of the population, so that is your base number. Plug_ins approaching 60% in CA in 1Q2015.

    We get 2Q number from CNCDA in mid-August
     
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    :p I turned 40 this year so......

    I was considering the turbocharged version too and putting the 2" lift kit on it. If I'm going to suffer engine noise and bad gas mileage I might as well have power (6.2s 0-60mph) for real climbing ability. ;)
     
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    This graphic is from gas prices.com website:

    Screen Shot 2015-07-15 at 9.13.30 AM.jpg
     
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    I'm having trouble making sense of the numbers, even after I discount the difference between fraction of the population and fraction of car sales.

    If the US is 3% hybrid
    CA is 30% of hybrid sales,
    and CA is 11% of US population

    A weighted average works out to ~ 8% of CA car sales are hybrid which sounds high.
    Is it correct ?
     
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    Yes you are correct, it might be closer to 9% Hybrids and plugins in CA...see CNCDA.org quarterly report.

    Actually 8% is exact number. (5% Hybrids/2%BEV/1%PHEV).
    http://cncda.org/CMS/Docs/Cal%20Covering%201Q%2015.pdf
    The implication is Rest of Country closer to I do not know 2%.
     
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    I'd love to see a tax-free version of the gaso price heat map...that would tell us what gaso is really selling for.
     
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    Screen Shot 2015-07-15 at 9.54.07 AM.jpg

    California has about 20 cents a gallon more taxes than the US average, and is an outlier along with HI. The rest of the states are pretty much within 10 cents a gallon of each other by the eyeball test.
     
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    The variation in fuel prices from station to station is quite impressive in CA -- at least for the example of San Diego I looked at:
    San Diego Gas Prices - Find Cheap Gas Prices in California


    $1.30 between most expensive and least!

    I'm lucky to see a 5 cent difference in SW Colorado. Albuquerque is about 30 cents.
     
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    $.79 average wow that's a great fairytale they tell. Is that what the gas station pays before all the taxes get added cause I think I had braces when gas was $.79 a gallon
     
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    Note that it says "average U.S. per liter price @ 79¢" [emphasis added], not gallon.

    That works out to $2.99 / gallon, which is actually slightly higher than the 2.78 / gallon shown on GasBuddy for that date.