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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Accessories & Modifications' started by ru5real, Aug 24, 2015.

  1. ru5real

    ru5real Junior Member

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    Hi. I'm in the planning stage of converting my Prius into a mini-RV. I have an idea of reinstalling the front passenger seat to facing the rear and removing the center console. Does anyone know if this would be a simple take-off/put-on? Thanks.
     
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    Reversing the seat will be the easy part, but what about the airbag mounted in the seat then being aimed at the driver along with a completely unusable seat belt. The seat also weighs the occupant to deliver the correct charge to the dash mounted airbag now behind your passengers head.

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    That was going to be my next series of questions. I plan on traveling alone, so I would only utilize the passenger seat when I'm parked. What are my options with the airbag situation? Is there a way to disable just the passenger side? Is that illegal even if no one will sit there?
     
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    Airbags are just 2 wire airbags so you can just disconnect them and connect correct ohm resistor in place instead. To not have the fault light. But in theory measuring resistance of airbag can DEPLOY IT. Connector for passenger seat airbag is just under passenger seat and connector for passenger front airbag is behind the upper clove box. Airbags can be dangerous so be careful and YOU’RE DOING THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK.
     
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    Rules vary from country to country. I would imagine there is no requirement to have a seat, but if the seat is there, and can be occupied the requirement for belts ect would apply.
    The ECU can be fooled by fitting a 2 ohm resistor in place of the airbag, and seat belt tension device.

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    I'm not to sure the dash airbag is a two wire device. I think it is a three wire the same as the steering wheel bag "I could be wrong" to allow different rates of deployment. Your other comments are valid, and the OP should proceed with caution.

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    Just checked the wiring diagram, and the dash airbag is shown with 4 wires as is the steering wheel bag. Two wires are common though making them effectively 3 wire devices. This gives three levels of deployment low, medium, and high.

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    But it’s probably just 2 explosives and can be replaced with 2 resistors. So this doesn’t really change much.
     
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    Hi John,

    Thank you. I have no electrical background and still a bit confused. When the ECU is fooled with the resistors, does this disable the airbags or just tell the ECU that a person is sitting in the seat?
     
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    Hi. Thank you. So the resistors solve only for the fault light or it disables the airbags? Haha, sorry for the elementary questions.
     
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    the resistors fool the srs module into thinking the airbag is still hooked up. the airbag will be disabled cause its not hooked up. the drivers bags should function normally.
     
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    Are you making brackets? They are definitely not bolt-on reversible. Not to mention the srs wiring issue.
     
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    Hahaha. It all makes sense now. Thank you!!
     
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    Didn't think of that. I was thinking if they weren't an easy reverse bolt on, I might have to reverse install the rails, but I guess I'll have to take a close look.
     
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    Next time I'm playing with around in the garage I'll try to mock this up since my seat is out but I'm thinking some fabrication work would be needed to. The bolts are not all on the ground level, one is on the corner like.

    What color is the plug that needs the resistor? I tried hooking up a spare 4ohm to the grey or black 2 wire plug and no change. Guessing it's the yellow. I'm picking up a 2ohm today.

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    srs connectors on most cars are yellow
     
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    Tried a 2ohm resistor and no luck. Grabbed a few resistors so had one in the grey plug and yellow plug after trying only yellow made no change. Still have the airbag light. What am I doing wrong?
     
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    You have to reset it. Code doesn’t clear by itself.
     
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    I unplugged the battery long enough for the radio to lose it's settings but still have the warning light. Is there a fuse I need to pull too or try leaving the battery disconnected like 30 minutes?
     
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    It might be that SRS-codes cannot be reset with just disconnecting 12V battery. Then you need to use Mini-VCI to do that. Mini-VCI is good to have anyway since then you can read all the fault codes and do all tests, customation, and (almost) anything that dealer can.