Cat Pee

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(marjflowers @ Apr 27 2006, 09:57 PM) [snapback]246411[/snapback]</div>

Ouch, that's mighty hard. Cats are very stubborn about continuing to go where they have once gone. First off, get some of that enzimatic cleaner to really get every thing clean. Use it several times. Matress, too. After that, it is often just a matter of diligence.

(The next statment is on the assumption that Tiger Lily is a young kitten.)
I would set Tiger Lily in the correct spot frequently and insist she stay there until she goes. Give really smelly tuna treats after for reinforcement. Treat every time she goes on her own as well.

If you suspect the 12-year old more, you might consider taking her to the vet to check for incontenence or other urinary upset. Some such things can be controled with medication. Or, being Siamese as only Siamese can be, she might just be being stubborn. You may try keeping all possible doors shut in a way that you can see both cats as often as possible.

Also, pretty much any animal won't go where they eat, so you mught try feeding them on the bed. This could deture them from that spot. (Hope they don't like to carry canned food off )

Whichever is the culprit, they will likely play off each other and play copy cat. The very best thing is to make sure absolutly all of the smell is gone.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(marjflowers @ Apr 27 2006, 06:57 PM) [snapback]246411[/snapback]</div>

We started having this problem with a 12 yr old cat. It turned out to be more of a psychological issue. We also have a young male cat. Although our older female cat is fearless with dogs, etc., she is intimidated by the young male. It turns out that she no longer felt she could go outside without worrying about him hassling her. We put a cat box in the bathroom and now she has returned to normal. It was mostly just stress.

It could be that one of the cats is trying to mark its turf. In your case I may be that the older cat may feel threatened if it feels it's losing ground to the newcomer.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(marjflowers @ Apr 27 2006, 09:57 PM) [snapback]246411[/snapback]</div>

We have a cat that would do this regularly and took quite some time to break the habit so please don't get frustrated. The first thing you should do is purely defensive. Get a vinyl mattress cover. Then if the cat pees, you only have to worry about stripping the sheets, pillow cases and pillow (if that gets hit) which are all easily washable. It is much more difficult when the mattress gets wet.

The other thing that worked was isolating the offending cat. We kept her in the computer room twice for longer than six months. It should be a room that gets a lot of traffic so the cat has company but one where you can keep her isolated. Feed her there. provide a litter box there and see what happens. Our girl never peed outside the box in all the time she was isolated. It is a social (marking) thing that sometimes comes with multiple cats (we have 5).

The story does have a happy ending. Midnight, the peeing cat, is now Midnight our pillow cat sleeping between our pillows every night. And no accidents in quite a while.

Good Luck.

 

One of our cats went on our pillows and bed on two separate occasions. We stopped it by making a, "no cats in the bedroom rule." If you still want them to be allowed in your room, you might want to check the forums over at www.catster.com to see if the posters over there have any ideas. In the mean time buy some Natures Miracle to help get rid of the smell.



<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(marjflowers @ Apr 27 2006, 06:57 PM) [snapback]246411[/snapback]</div>

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(marjflowers @ Apr 27 2006, 09:57 PM) [snapback]246411[/snapback]</div>

CoastalTech has an EC modification (Electric Cat mode) that uses electric signals to dissuade the cat from peeing inappropriately. The kit comes with all wires and taps needed, although due to space limitations it can be a little tricky to install properly, especially in removing the appropriate body panels. :lol:

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Erik Tkal @ Apr 28 2006, 10:00 AM) [snapback]246702[/snapback]</div>

, funny Erik.

 

My money is on the older cat. In the past mine have used inappropriate urination to voice their dislike of things.

You have to re-assert yourself by limiting their access to this spot. The isolation technique is also effective but you must stick to it...they are stubborn!

 

We never expirienced this as our cat was outside but the alley cats would show up and spray into the fresh-air intake on the car. WOW what a smell... the out side cat died after being hit by a teenaged driver..

Now we have dogs and the house breaking was easy, when they have to go out they come and nuge you, then walk to the door. and the best part no more stray cats hanging around as the boxer & the sheperd would gladly eat them...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Begreen @ Apr 27 2006, 11:29 PM) [snapback]246453[/snapback]</div>

Ditto here. The "new" cat stressed out the old cat so much she would not go to the litter box. After trying everything we could think of, we gave "back" the new cat. Hey, the old one had squatters rights.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusguy04 @ Apr 28 2006, 03:13 PM) [snapback]246791[/snapback]</div>

The cause of death of the outside cat was not being hit by a teenaged driver, it was being owned by someone who let it stray into the roadway.

 

I was always a cat person and I still like cats as long as they are not mine. I totally prefer having a dog even when her one goal is to be as close as possible to me on a constant basis.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Salsawonder @ Apr 28 2006, 05:26 PM) [snapback]246848[/snapback]</div>

I was raised a dog person, married my 2nd wife who was a dog/cat person and we had 2 dogs and 2 cats. Lifestyle now precludes dogs (they do not enjoy being alone many hours as cats do) So, now we have 3 INDOOR ONLY cats.

 

We currently have 2 dogs and 2 cats. Our oldest cat, when mad, has used the bed as his own person litterbox. I used an enzymatic deodorizer specifically for cat urine. Also, in a pinch, plain old white vinegar will kill the odor...basic chemistry...acid + base = neutral. We had a cat that we recently lost that when mad would use my closet floor. I used a combo of vinegar and baking soda and it worked like a charm. The specific use cleaners work best, but the vinegar cut the smell until I could get the cleaner. Hope that this helps!

Also the bad behavior might just be an adjustment phase..the last time my cat Shelby urinated on the bed was when we brought home our Jack Russell puppy, Boomer. He had no problems when we brought home our rescue dog, a Rat Terrier named Smoke. Our other cat, Honey, is laid back and we have never had a problem with him going outside the box. All of kids are boys and if your Siamese is a boy, then he maybe more likely to "mark" his spot.

 

There is a plug-in phereomone "feliway" which may help calm which ever cat is misbehaving. available at petstores or the vet.
otherwise- suggest you keep them form the bedroom.

 

My wife works at a vet clinic and she has some suggestions...

1) Separate the cats. TL in a room by herself and the other has the larger territory.
2) Give each cat separate, but equal, quality time. This means that the other won't get jealous watching you pay attention to the other.
3) Take a dry washcloth and pet TL with it. Leave the washcloth in the older cat's territory (near one of their sleeping spots).
4) Do the same thing with a washcloth with the older cat. Leave that washcloth with the kitten. That way they can smell each other without confronting each other.
5) Do that every couple of days with a fresh washcloth to renew the scent.
6) After a week, pet the cat with the opposite cat's washcloth to exchange their scents. Now that they have been introduced, they can now be family members. After 3 or 4 weeks you can try to introduce the cats.
7) Yeah, some sort of enzyme spray to get rid of the smell. "Anti Icky-Poo," "Simple Solution," "Nature's Miracle," etc (read directions carefully).
8) "Feliway" pheromone (as suggested) will reduce tension between cats (read directions carefully).
9) Monitor urine. Extremely important. If small frequent amounts, please see a vet. Urinary tract infection.
10) To attract cat to litter box (for older cat), "Dr. Isley's Cat Attract" cat litter (available at PetSmart, it's guaranteed).

If either cat is displaying any abnormal drinking habits, or behaviors, please see vet. MONITOR URINE!

Tally's Cat Behavior has some good links, or Cornell Veterinary University.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(marjflowers @ Apr 27 2006, 09:57 PM) [snapback]246411[/snapback]</div>

Just a thought. I'm assuming you did introduce TL to the litter box as soon as you took her into the house.

We have 3 cats now and only on one occassion was there pee other than in the litter box. It was when we introduced a neutral color berber area rug on the tile floor of the family room. Kitty thought the texture was even better than the litter in the box and wet it a couple times. Goodbye berber rug. Welcome back to the litter box, Kitty.

If your bed has a chenile or otherwise absorbant bedspread, you may be experiencing the same syndrome. Try covering the bedspread, pillows, etc with a vinyl sheet. If it's not absorbant, your cat may find it unsuitable for urinating.