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Just purchased 2015 Prius 2

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Vanguard, Oct 25, 2015.

  1. Vanguard

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    We just purchased our college age daughter the new Prius 2 in Barcelona Red (her selection). What a lovely color! The only other selection our dealer had in stock was silver, which appears to be much more popular, based on the number available. She has wanted a Prius since high school, and has never swayed in her choice, of car or color.

    She test drove the special edition in Really Red, and did not like it at all. I offered to get her the Prius 3, with moonroof and navigation, which was in stock that day in her color, but she is too practical and just wanted the base model (gosh I love her). It took a week for the dealership to receive the car, as it was still in transit when we visited.

    We had planned on waiting until the start of her Junior year, as we did with our oldest daughter (who picked the 2015 Honda Fit), but with the model change coming, and the substantial discounts now available (just over $4,500.00 until Nov2), we pulled the trigger 6 months early, and are very pleased with the results. We were also concerned that if we waited for any further reductions, her color/model combination might not be available.

    I will admit however that while I know she is very happy, the purchase makes me somewhat sad because now she has the ability to find work locally while going to school, and is less likely to come home during the summer months. She is growing up. On the bright side, with a car, she can pop home any weekend she is not working (school is about 3 hours away)!

    The deal we make with all three of our children is:

    1) never smoke cigarettes
    2) maintain a good GPA, both High school and college
    3) contribute at least $3,000 to the downpayment (earned from working while in High School).

    In return, we make the payments, and provide insurance while they are still in school (to which my oldest daughter declared she would be staying on to get her Masters degree). With their name also on the title, they are building credit while still in school, and hopefully will be in a position to buy a home that much sooner after graduation.
     
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    That is the quickest way to get into family issues you should not let any of your kids have a new car bad for your credit bad for their self esteem let them work their way up and get their own cars make them earn it take those new cars back and keep your credit talking from experience.
    Let them save up money and buy a crappy car just like we had to do
     
  3. Vanguard

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    Not sure how new cars hurt our credit. If anything, managing debt successfully and making on-time payments help your credit. We view our kids as having earned their cars by working all through high school and the first two years of college, saving their money, making the down payment, fulfilling our requirements of not smoking and maintaining grades both in high school and college. It represents at least a 6 year journey on their part, with a new car as a reward for their hard work and demonstrated responsibility.

    I feel much better about my daughters living 3 hours away, and making the trip home on a regular basis, in a new car, with a warranty. Should they have any problems, the dealership is minutes away from their dorm room.
     
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    From the description I infer that the title & loan are in joint names. It sounds like you have two good kids there.

    I also understand Matt's point of view. Having to rotate the oil and power steering fluid builds character and reinforces the habit of checking things regularly. (Always had at least a quart of oil, a bottle of power steering fluid, and a jug of antifreeze in the trunk.) Philosophies were mixed even back in the 70s. In the student lots everything could be found from new cars to old POS. The car one of my buddies was driving was a year older than he was. Another friend got a brand new car from his parents. He still has it, 38 years later.

    That Prius should last her until she is 35. Best wishes to both of them and to you.
     
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    welcome, great idea! as i told my kids, your welcome to visit anytime, please don't move home.:cool: all the best to you and your daughters.(y)
     
  6. Vanguard

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    I remember my first car.....a 1955 Chevy Bel-Air. I paid $50.00 for it, even before I had a drivers license, also back in the very early 70's. My second car was a Willy's Jeep from the 1950's as well. I had many adventures in those cars, more so the Jeep than the Chevy, and broke down many, many times. I think it is the memory of those breakdowns (and some to the sketchy places they occurred), that makes me sleep better knowing my daughters are in sound cars, both under warranty, complete with emergency road service and access to the dealer.

    The youngest child, my son, can decide when his time comes if he wants a new car, or an old beater. He may even want something else completely, other than a new car as his reward for responsible behavior (such as a lifetime supply of video games). Having said that, if my Father had offered me a new car when i was in college, I would probably have taken him up on it. However, I did smoke (several things), and my grades were not classified as even "fair" initially . I was lucky he agreed to pay for my tuition, with an occasional check for incidentals. I would have been pushing my luck, had I asked him for a car as well, new or used.

    All my kids are leaps and bounds ahead of where I was at their age. I attribute that fact to the influence of my Wife, who is without question the smartest person in any room she enters. The only questionable decision I can trace to her was to marry me, but then again, no one is perfect!
     
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    Congratulations on the purchase of your 2015. If you can fund your three children's college educations and also buy new cars for them at the same time you are obviously doing well financially, so more power to you.
     
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    Well, the fact both my wife and i paid off our own personal cars years ago (and the fact we don't mind driving 10 year old cars ourselves), certainly helps. That and the fact our contribution to the down payment, along with that of our children, does not leave much of a balance due also helps. We started planning for these expenditures years ago, so it does not hit us very hard now.

    Really, anyone who plans in advance can achieve the same thing. It is not so much how much money you make that matters, but how much money you spend regularly, that determines your future.
     
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    Kudos to you and your daughter. I wish I could've been that responsible when I was a teenager. The first car I wanted was a red Acura Integra GSR. What a stupid mistake. Had I gone with the sensible Civic or Corolla, I'd be that much richer today.

    Anyway, as your name says, I hope you set up a Roth IRA for your children if their earnings were taxable at Vanguard. That would be a nice start on life.

    If I were able to save more, I would provide for my daughters as you have. For now, my children are sharing my hand-me-down PiP and half of state college will be paid. If I don't retire early, I might be able to help out more, we'll see.
     
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    My parents couldn't afford to make that nice of a deal for myself or my brother.
    It was generally considered that a vehicle and insurance was a TOTAL responsibility of the individual.

    However, I'm NOT criticizing. It's nice that you have the financial means to make that offer for your daughters.

    And as you have pointed out in your post, there are a lot of advantages for everyone involved including yourself. I know if I was a parent, the simple idea that my child was driving and operating a new and "safe" vehicle would make me feel a lot better.

    Some of the early vehicles I could afford? Well...let's just say they weren't necessarily in the best of shape or equipped with the latest safety features.

    So anyway, good deal for your daughters. Good deal for you. Everyone enjoy.
     
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    Her kids, her rules.
     
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    Looks to me that you are encouraging your children to complete their education. With the $3000 and grade requirement they have "skin in the game." Well played.
     
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    Purely hypothetically however, we don't know how failure to maintain these goals would be dealt with?

    What if grades plummet? What if a daughter comes home chain smoking and declaring she's taking her new vehicle to Colorado to join a group of free minded thinkers building an "Earth Ship" and living off the grid?

    This "deal" is so good? Who wouldn't do it?

    I don't smoke. BUT...when I was younger, if my parents had presented that deal to me? I would of slapped a nicotine patch on my butt, had $3000 dollars saved up before they could change their minds, and become Valedictorian.

    Which I suppose IS testament to the motivational capabilities of being "very nice" to your kids.

    But I want to know the flip side. Does failure mean a bus pass, and entrance into the local "Beauty College"?
     
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    The original deal was; we make the payments and provide insurance while still in school (I forgot to write "as long as grades are maintained and you don't start to smoke, or bring home anyone who does, or get pregnant or, for my Son, get anyone pregnant, or arrested or drop out, or any other reason we come up with as circumstances require).

    As adults, we all know that there must be consequences for your actions.......As parents, we all know to use anything we can to motivate our children.

    The internal debate within our family now is, do we continue the offer of financial assistance should they go on to graduate school, or does the assistance end with the first undergraduate degree (note we did not include multiple undergraduate degrees, or becoming a professional student).

    I am of the mind to continue the payments into graduate school as well, since I would prefer they make a seamless transition from one to the other, as to not lose interest in studying. By that time the cars should be paid off entirely, which may motivate them to get their Masters degree right away.


    Yes, we have taken advantage of the Roth concept for our children, the only real requirement being "earned income", which they all have. That was the company that inspired our screen name, along with the actual definition of the word.
     
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    Might I suggest you pay for their graduate school but not let them know you will do it until after they make the decision. This way they consciously think about whether they can commit to the advanced degree rather than staying in school longer for the free ride.
     
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    Nothing succeeds like success.
    Sounds to me like you're doing good things, NOT that you need my endorsement.
    I think that your girls have some pretty good parents.

    The no-smoking caveat was wise.
    One of President Carter's books mentioned a deal that his dad made to him when he was young. If he eschewed smoking he would earn a gold watch---something that was much harder to do in 1940's Georgia than it is today.
    Smoking contributed to the cancer that ravaged the former President's family.

    Best of luck!


    Oh...and Welcome Aboard!
    Lots of advice here.....and some of it is even worth the asking price...... :D
     
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    Right now, the debate is limited to the parental level. Of course we monitor what our children are thinking, and where their educations are leading them. My oldest daughter is pursuing an undergraduate degree that without a Masters, will not offer as many opportunities. Our middle daughter is still busy changing her mind, but I suspect will be in the same boat as her older sister before long. Both are very level headed, one more than the other, but so far we have not experienced any of the horror stories some of our friends have with their college age children.

    Merged.


    I got the no-smoking idea from a family I worked for years ago. The father offered the son a rather large sum of money, if he avoided any tobacco products while in school. It worked, and the son ended up attending Vanderbilt University.

    His father, who also owned a large farm in Southern Illinois, moved to Nashville to help maintain that motivation. Once his son graduated from school, he and his dad went into business together, and the guidance continued until the untimely death of the son.

    I think of them often (the father recently passed away at the age of 92), and what a wonderful example the father set regarding the lifelong commitment being a parent really is.
     
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    Cleaning up a smoker's car seems akin to cleaning up a grow-op house. Maybe even worse. Terrible habit, for your lungs, anyone you live with, your home, the environment. And, I used to smoke, way back when, lol.