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Non-Phone Bluetooth Transfer with an 06?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by kdmorse, Feb 22, 2006.

  1. kdmorse

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    Well, I just spent about an hour trying all the various ways mentioned in this (and other) forums to get phone entries into my new 06 Prius.

    I have a Verizon e815, and as such, have no direct OBEX/OOP way to transfer contacts into the car (I have enabled OBEX, and it works on it's own, but without OOP, there's no way to Send the contacts - if only the Prius could perform a Fetch...). Other than that, the two get along famously, they are paired, and all phone functions work properly.

    So, following the instructions posted in the File section, I proceeded to transfer all those contacts to my laptop, and attempt to send them from the laptop into the Prius, with little success.

    My laptop can see the car, it can pair with the car, and it can search for services (of which it finds none). The Prius never adds the laptop as a paired device, but I get the impression from threads here that this is normal. I then ask the Prius to transfer contacts from the phone, and attempt to rediscover services from the laptop. At this point, it's my understanding that the laptop should be able to see the OBEX service that the Prius has just exposed to the phone - but it can't. Still no services found.

    So... I tried with my bluetooth enabled Palm Tx. Same symptoms. I can half pair the Palm and the Car, but I cannot see the OBEX profile at any time, even when the Car is waiting for the phone to send a contact.

    So my question is, has anyone used the Laptop/Palm trick successfully on an 06'? Is it possible that the 06's are no longer trackable, and will only expose their OBEX profile to devices they recognize as fully paired? Or am I just doing something wrong?

    Right now I'm going on the assumption that the 06's fix the 'problem', and I'm well and truly screwed. My phone cannot push. The prius will not accept contacts from anything other than a phone. Thus, all that leaves me with is manual entry.

    Damn you verizon - and your bluetooth crippling!! I thought I was over the verizon hump when I got DUN working, and was able to get full DUN and OBEX connectivity between my phone, laptop and palm Tx. All was well with the world, until now....

    -Ken
     
  2. berylrb

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kdmorse @ Feb 22 2006, 09:36 PM) [snapback]214950[/snapback]</div>
    So let me see if I've heard you correctly, you're trying to use the TX to send contacts to the car's address book, and that there is something fundamentally different with the 2006 than say the 2004? The reason I ask is that I was sure that I accomplished this with my AT&T t616 and our 2004, I know you hinted at the Verizon connection but I had just assumed all along that this type of bluetooth transfer was bug-free by now, wow! I'll check tonight, and try with my TX too.

    did you see this thread?
    http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=1...07&#entry184607
    "Verizon Customers: Phonebook transfer solution"

    You've given me something to think about, I've been trying to use my TX =>t616=>prius to make a call while driving and converse using the prius handsfree functionality. Nobody over on the brighthand.com forums have used their TX's this way yet.

    b
     
  3. berylrb

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    Well, I just did the same thing as you with my TX and the same result and I have a 2004!

    As you say we became 'half-paired' settings check etc.

    I read the list from another posts as to compatible phones and I know mine is not crippled, so I wonder if it ever really was possible to go from a laptop/PDA to the Pruis? Do you recall the specific threads you were referring to? What year Prius' were mentioned.

    I tried with TX discoverable, powering Prius on and off, and I never got past the dialog window where the Prius is waiting for a connection after entering the pass-key. BTW I was adding a phone, not attempting to make the TX phone #1! I left my t616 settings the same, and no dice either phone off or on (not connected to Prius).

    Anyway, while I was at it I continued on with what I really wanted to do, use the TX to dial and the phone to send, or whatever the correct techno term. NO dice, the TX couldn't find the phone while the phone had a successful connection to the Prius.

    Bummer twice! beryl
     
  4. jrfaris

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(berylrb @ May 9 2006, 07:39 PM) [snapback]252551[/snapback]</div>
    Bluetooth-phone-book-transfer-using-a-laptop
     
  5. Syclone

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    I've posted my bluetooth E815 problems before, but there is one other thing I want to add to the mystery.

    A couple of months ago I was in the local Apple store and was fooling around with a bluetooth enabled MAC. I paired my phone with the Mac and suddenly the Mac and the E815 were talking! The E815 added its phone book to the Mac and, unfortunately, the Mac added its phonebook of nonsense numbers to the E815.

    If anybody can figure out why the transfer process was successful with the Mac, we may be able to solve the problem.

    By the way, it took nearly an hour to clear the crap from the Mac's phonebook from my phone.

    Sy Cohen
     
  6. ttabbal

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    The mac likely initiated the connection. OBEX exists on the 815, OPP does not. So if you connect FROM another device, you can transfer data. Verizon just doesn't let you connect from the phone to another device. It's a PITA.
     
  7. Syclone

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ttabbal @ May 10 2006, 12:49 PM) [snapback]252848[/snapback]</div>
    You have me there. I know about OBEX, which is turned off in the E815. What is OPP? ( Or should I say "What's OPP Doc?"

    Sy Cohen
     
  8. ttabbal

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    OPP = Object Push Profile.

    It's what allows a device to initiate a data transfer. Verizon phones always have it disabled. There is a hack to enable OBEX on the E815, but there is no known way to add OPP, so you can only transfer data using another device to "pull" the data from the phone.

    The Mac might also be able to speak the AT command set that Motorola uses for the MPT program available for Windows. If it can do that, it doesn't need OBEX or OPP to sync contacts with the phone. I'm not that familiar with OSX's phone capabilities, but it's a possibility.
     
  9. sgpon

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    I also have an '06 and spent two hours trying every method I have read here and my computer would not send a .vcf file to the Prius. Finally being a Verizon customer but deciding to try it anyhow, I sent an entire category from my Treo 650 to the car. It worked beautifully and my problems are now solved. After not having success with a couple of the tools posted here on the forum, I broke down installed Perl on my laptop and wrote a script to parse a .csv file exported from Outlook.

    The beauty of the script is that it will handle Business, Home and Mobile phone numbers for a given contact. It truncates that name to 18 characters and adds a -b, -h or -m to indicate which number it is. It also sets the tag appropriately in the .vcf so the icon on the 2006 is correct for the type of number as well.

    Does anyone know if the 2006 has the same 1000 number limit as previous years? Is that 1000 contacts with up to 2 numbers each or 1000 numbers, no matter the count of contacts? It appears to allow name of 20 characters compared to the 12 that I have seen people post previous years can handle.

    If anyone is interested in the Perl script and instructions let me know and I can post it.
     
  10. David

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    I wish I had the luxury of having time to research and experiment. Two good things about the 2006 is you can fairly quickly manually enter names and numbers and it connects instantly with my Treo 650 to make calls dialing from the phone.

    I just entered enough numbers to fill up the one-touch dial slots and do the rest from the phone. It's faster and can be done while driving and the numbers are always up-to-date.
     
  11. klownjo

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kdmorse @ Feb 22 2006, 10:36 PM) [snapback]214950[/snapback]</div>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kdmorse @ Feb 22 2006, 10:36 PM) [snapback]214950[/snapback]</div>

    Ken;
    I have an 05 prius and verizon as a carrier as well. The only way I was able to load my address book & my pnone numbers was to buy a Sony ericson T68i on E-bay for $35.00 sync it outlook and bam...straight to my Prius no problem at all.
     
  12. the fish

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    Tried this yesterday with my laptop and Sprint phone (LG LX350) and got the same results - no joy. Looks like I'll have to make matters into my own hands ... just let my fingers do the walking ... heck I don't know.