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Advise before I buy my first Hybrid

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Main Forum' started by KimPrius3, May 22, 2016.

  1. wjtracy

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    I guess we're the Prius demographic
     
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    I L-O-V-E, love being a grandparent!! :love:
     
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    I'm not sure that the safety features will get annoying, I don't have them, but have visited a number of dealerships (and brands). I've only tested one car with them, and found them great as far as I could tell on a test-drive (I purposely didn't test the auto braking, but when the salesman was driving, it intervened once and I thought it was appropriate that it did)!!

    In not too long, they'll all become standard (Auto Braking is likely to be mandated here in Australia in the next couple of years), and cars without them may depreciate quicker.

    Interestingly, 2 lady salespeople were adamant that "I would never buy a new car WITHOUT them". Several guys said they don't mind them, but don't use them much because they don't have them on their home cars. Only one salesman was adamant that he found they were annoying - but I found him annoying in a few ways too, so I can understand why he argued with the safety features.

    I did like the HUD - probably not a deal-breaker, but seeing it's standard on all Prius here in Australia, not a consideration. I didn't drive with HUD at night, but I'm told that it's amazing.
     
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    Hi Kim,
    Welcome! I have driven many cars from many companies over the years. I have done most of the repairs on them myself. Toyota for me, is the best made (affordable) car. As an example, it has been noted that one car manufacturer builds its brand new mini vans with B grade disc rotors for their brakes. By doing this, by the time the vehicle gets to 30,000 miles, one would have to replace the rotors and the pads! And then, when one buys the rotors to replace the others from your local shop, you find the grade quality of them better (A grade) than the rotors when you bought the mini van! Why do I say all this? You will find that you will be able to drive your Prius for 10 years and experience less costs in repairs than what you would in 3 years of other non-hybrid cars. This has been my experience with Toyota cars. They are built to be driven.
     
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    Thanks for that - there are 2 links in the 2nd top paragraph which don't work - they are links to videos on production of Gen 3, but they all show that the videos are private.
     
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    I would if that was an option for me. Not sure any CARB states near Florida. And some. Also had two with the sunroof and decided not to do it or the HUD this time around. personal preference and does not reflect the views of the management.
     
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    I too have owned several non-Toyota vehicles and had nothing good to say about them. They fell apart so fast, it's like they were held together by school glue. Not only mechanical difficulties but even the interior plastics started to fall off. Gas gauges not working, windows not rolling down, speaker covers falling off, . . . A Bonneville we had blew up while we were on vacation and we had to buy a car while there. Then we stupidly bought another non-Toyota vehicle and when driving it to Florida it started shaking and this was after we had taken it to the mechanic several times. We did not drive it back to Virginia. We bought a Camry then and have had nothing go wrong in 5 years. We did replace the tires, as the ones it came with were noisey.

    As long as you can turn the safety features off I don't think they will be a problem. I really need to go test drive one with the Advanced Technology Package, then I will know for sure what I want/don't want.
     
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    Good luck Kim! I have a Hypersonic Red 2016 that I fell in love with :)

    I knew I wanted a gas efficient vehicle for my next car but I figured that I had a few years before that was going to happen but then my 2005 Audi A4's electrical system basically died. After spending already thousands of dollars in fixing other issues last year, I was not willing to dump any more money into it. The day I found that my car was going to cost additional thousands of dollars, I decided to swing by the Toyota dealership to test drive the Prius. A few hours later, I was driving the Prius home. I know I didn't take a lot of time to investigate but I'm happy with my purchase. The only surprising thing to me was different from other cars was the battery under the back seat and making sure that you don't cover up the vent for that battery.

    I read on here that obviously you can get better gas mileage by actively working on it but really the key for a new Prius owner is to just drive. And that is what I do.
     
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    Toyota is offering $1000 cash back for a Prius during May.If I'd known how great grand-daughters are, I think I would have had them instead of daughters.
     
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    No CARB near Florida , Maryland and northeast and West Coast. But you have to register vehicle in a CARB state to get the benefit. So you did not miss out on anything...you did good.
     
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    .....or 0 % financing for 60 months. I went for the financing.
     
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    An advantage or nice thing about Prius is that it doesn't really take a lot of special magic skills to drive one. You can pretty much get in and drive it like ANY vehicle.
    You can apply different techniques as you become more familiar, OR NOT...and still enjoy the benefit of owning a Hybrid.

    You evidently are already familiar with technology like HUD, Cell Phones and GPS, so there is no technology in a Prius that I think would leave you in the dark.
    I think for some unfamiliar people, sometimes the "idea" of driving a Hybrid more daunting than actually driving one.

    Intimidation of the technology is not something I would worry much about.

    My only concern is whether you REALLY want a Prius?
    If you weren't considering a Prius, what swayed you towards a Prius? Outside of it being "cute".
    There is a big difference between a regular ICE Rav 4 and a Prius, as far as what end tools they are.

    My only advice is make sure you REALLY want a Hybrid and a Prius. There are a LOT of vehicles on the market that are cute, quite, smooth and peppy.
    Somewhat refreshing to hear someone interested in Prius based on those attributes, and not the usual proclamations of wanting gas efficiency and lower emissions. Toyota would be happy to know they've reached you.

    But since you originally were looking at a Rav 4, my only caution is make sure a Prius is something you will be happy with, once the newness wears off.
     
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    My hubby and I paid my Camry off, and decided that we wanted to get another new Toyota. He bought a new Tundra last year and thought I might like the Rav 4. Our plan was/is to make a good down payment on whatever Toyota we bought, sell the 2011 Camry ourselves, and put that cash into savings. By doing so, I would have a new car, low car payment, and money in the bank. Saving the down payment should take until this Fall.

    The nearest Toyota dealer is 1/2 hour away and we happened to be in that area a couple of months ago, and my hubby said, let's stop in so you can test drive the Rav 4. So I did, and afterwards told my husband that I would just keep the Camry, because the Rav 4 was like driving his truck (not smooth, not quiet, not comfortable, to me). Pretty much on a whim, I said I wanted to test drive the "cute" Prius (never, ever thought of any reason to buy one). When I got out of that car I was really impressed. It was like driving my Grandmothers Cadillac, and even though I love my Camry, I just felt like the car fit me. Except for my Camry, all my previous cars were non-Toyota and were bought used. We found a new 2015 Prius C on the internet and drove an hour to a different dealership, for a test drive. It did not seem as impressive to me as the first Prius, and a huge negative was the lack of space in the back. We take 3 Chihuahuas and a set of golf clubs to Florida at least once a year (clubs and dog crate would never fit).

    I really appreciate your advise to "make sure a Prius is something I will be happy with once the newness wears off". I really do need to go test drive several more times and drive the Prius 3 with the ATP (includes moonroof that hubby wants). My absolute worst thought about the technology is that I might somehow damage the car with my lack of knowledge. Is this possible?
     
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    Well?
    As a general statement I'm sometimes amazed at what damage humanity can do...with knowledge and without.
    But again, in general if you are capable of driving ANY vehicle, I'm going to say no.
    If you wish, driving a Prius can be reduced to the exact same operational choices as with any vehicle. Probably less if you factor in a push button start and a smart key system.

    If you don't want to apply hypermiling techniques, or even deal with the different driving modes, it is possible to simply start and drive...just like your Camry, or a Rav 4.
    There's no Willy Wonka glass elevator button on a Prius that you are going to accidentally press and it would cause you to crash through the ceiling.
    You're safe.
    Minutia can be learned at a desired and leisurely pace if you wish. I would recommend learning as much as possible eventually. But owning and operating a Prius is IMO not really any more daunting than owning and operating any new to you vehicle.
     
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    Given that it's been a few pages, I guess you've had some or all of your questions answered. Here's my opinions.


    1. Not really. It's a good balance of features and price. The 15" wheels will ride a bit more comfortable than the 17" wheels on the Touring models just by the nature of having a taller sidewall (so more rubber to absorb impacts). It'll also be a bit more fuel efficient because they're smaller and lighter (even though Toyota doesn't distinguish the mpg between the Touring models. As someone has mentioned before, the Four and all Touring models do not have a spare tire (but do have a larger trunk as a result) so if that's important, the Three is as high as you can go with a spare tire
    2. Not difficult at all. You'll learn to love the large digital speedometer. It's easy to read. Or if you have the HUD, then everything you need is in front of you. The HUD will also display navigation instructions if you're under route guidance. The main screen on the left is your important functions like speed, fuel gauge and odo/trip odo. The second 4.2" screen to the right is your secondary displays. You can take all the time if the world to learn them :)
    3. It's optional on the Three as part of the AT Package. Keep in mind that Touring models do NOT come with the HUD (but they come with TSS-P as standard equipment)
    4. Most newer androids have Qi Wireless. An older android (like a Galaxy S2 or S3) won't have it. You'll have to buy a special case
    5. Yes. The iPhone only adds a special "Siri EyesFree" mode. The regular Toyota voice recognition works with or without a phone.
     
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    I'll never go back to driving a traditional vehicle. The Prius has an excellent reliability above and beyond most other cars that have so much less going on.


    XT1585 ?
     
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    You might consider renting a 2016 model for a few days, before purchasing. (I wish I had waited and done that.)

    Prospective buyers, and those that never owned a hybrid before could learn so much more about the characteristics of the Prius, rather than taking a few short test drives.
     
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    See if your dealer has rentals available. I rented one for a week, but 3 days were satisfactory and answered the doubts I had. Just waiting for the lease vehicle to go up for sale as it would save me a ton of money because it's used.

    Edit: Coast Cruiser beat me to the punch while I was typing. Dealers have short, carefully chosen routes that don't reflect your particular driving.
     
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    I took my sales critter to a loop and did 5 miles on cruise control and got 99.1 MPG. Then I told him 'not good enough' which blew his mind.

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    Actually that happened to me by accident. I rented a Prism for a business trip and got phenomenal MPG. So I lifted the hood and it said Toyota all over the place.That sums it all up eh! The next week I went to the Chevy dealer and bought their last one on the lot the last year they were made. very nice car.
     
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