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Coolant Pressure Test for Toyota Prius Gen 3

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by F_Lv_K, Aug 16, 2016.

  1. F_Lv_K

    F_Lv_K New Member

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    May I know how to perform a coolant pressure test for Toyota Prius Gen 3??

    Is My work procedure correct?

    My Procedure as below:

    1. Turn the A/C switch off.
    2. Remove the Engine Coolant reservoir tank cap.
    3. Fill the reservoir tank with coolant, and then attach the coolant tester.
    4. Put the engine in inspection mode.
    5. Warm up the engine.
    6. Using the coolant tester, increase the pressure inside the radiator to 16psi, and check that the pressure does not drop.
     
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    Correct procedure, but where did you find a cap adapter that fits the Gen 3 Prius Reservoir?

    Also, you don't necessarily need to top off the coolant in the tank. Having some air in there could throw off the pressure a little, but once you pressurize the system to ~16psi, you should be able to find your leak regardless. Also, you may want to do this test cold and warm as certain leaks may only be leaking when cold or warm (expansion of metal/seals).

    BTW, I may be jumping the gun since you're new here, but why are you doing this test? Coolant going down without an obvious source of leakage?
     
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    How many miles on the Prius? Have you looked at the oil to see the condition?
     
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    Raytheeagle, funny how we're all jumping to assist someone and immediately pointing to the head gasket issue in gen 3's without even knowing why he's doing this pressure test. I'm hoping for his sake that it's not the case, but yeah, why else would he be doing this (on a Prius)? o_O
     
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    Sorry for late reply guys and Thanks for the help.

    I'm newbie in automotive industry and just join a city cab service workshop few week ago.

    We have about 1700 units of Toyota Prius (ZVW30), Asian Model.

    The age of those vehicle is about 0 - 2.5 years old.

    But I found that there got around 30 units engine got overheated since June 16.

    The mileage for the vehicle mentioned above is 300,000KM to 550,000KM. (180,000 to 350,000Miles)

    All coolant was fall below min indication line, some tank was empty.

    90% of the engine head gasket was melted. See attachment.

    We do not have any cold season here, the average temperature is about 86-100F.

    So I wish to do the coolant pressure test for all vehicle wish reached or exceed 250,000KM.

    But I found that if I follow the step that I mentioned in the 1st post, I just able to detect the external leak but not internal leak.

    I do some experiment to those overheated vehicle, pump the pressure to 16 psi and wait for 10 minutes, record the pressure reading for 2-minutes, 5 minutes and 10 minutes and compare it with the new car reading.

    But look like not much different between it. That why I asking this question here cause I suspect my testing step is wrong.

    I got two objective for this project, I wish to know detect the overheated problem earlier through some equipment testing.

    Next objective is find out the root cause and solve/reduce the overheated case.


    Does cylinder compression test help to detect the leak?

    Some water pump of the overheated vehicle is bad, but some is good. Does hybrid battery affect the efficiency of the water pump? How about radiator?

    Thanks
     

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    The fact that the head gaskets are gone is probably your best bet of where you should start to diagnose the issues. Since you have so many of these cars, your first step should be to mark off the hot and cold marks of the coolant in each car. Maybe use a color code marker system and just have every car topped off to start at an even level. From there, have them monitored for coolant loss. If any are losing coolant, you can do a coolant combustion gas leak test. That will confirm if the head gasket is leaking into the coolant chambers. You can also do a compression or leak down cylinder test, but that's a lot more effort, especially when you are talking about the scale you're talking about.

    Combustion gas tester:


    You can buy refill bottles that'll cost less than $1 an ounce (1 ounce per test if I read the instructions correctly).

    The sad part is that there is no low coolant light in the Prius. That would help you at least identify when the issue is at the early stages, but at the end of the day, you're going to have to pull the head and replace the gasket anyways.

    BTW, how long is it taking your shop to replace head gaskets from start to finish (excluding machining of the head)? U.S. shop hours look like 18.8 hours according to AllData. Very long considering most 4 cyl engines can be done in under 12 hours, including bleeding the air out of the coolant.

    Also, what are you using to test the pressure? How are you locking onto the coolant tank? Have a specific model or kit you're using?
     
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    Thanks DTKim for the suggestion.

    Is this combustion leak test suitable for Toyota PRIUS?

    Prius Gen 3 do not have a radiator cap, so we need to suck the air from the coolant reservoir tank?
     
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    It's suitable for all cars. There's other brands that may be cheaper or more expensive. Read reviews on Amazon for real world opinions.

    As for how to suck the air out, yes, the coolant reservoir is the place to do it from as that's the only place that you can get a sample.

    BTW, can you let us know what specific adapter you are using to do the coolant pressure test?
     
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    Sorry for the late reply. Please see attachment.

    I tested the coolant pressure tester for some good condition car. Please see below list

    I also perform the coolant pressure test for some overheated car (no external leak), but the result is the same as below.

    Not much different.
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    The mileage stated above is KM
     

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    Where did you get that adapter to fit the cooling bottle or what brand and model is it? I can't find one anywhere...

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
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    If you look at the pressure cap on that bottle, you may see a rating, like 108 kPa, on the label.

    108 kPa is slightly under 16 psi (around 15.7). 16 psi is probably ok for testing. (If you were testing with the factory cap in place, it might vent slightly at 16 psi. But that won't be an issue when your test cap replaces the factory cap.)
     
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    From the short amount of looking these adapters on Amazon appear to be what is needed if you have a gen 3 engine.
     

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