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"Godless: The Church of Liberalism"

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  1. Mystery Squid

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    The rest of the reply to MAnn Coulter's book by 9/11 widows......




    We did not choose to become widowed on September 11, 2001. The attack, which tore our families apart and destroyed our former lives, caused us to ask some serious questions regarding the systems that our country has in place to protect its citizens.

    Through our constant research, we came to learn how the protocols were supposed to have worked. Thus, we asked for an independent commission to investigate the loopholes which obviously existed and allowed us to be so utterly vulnerable to terrorists. Our only motivation ever was to make our Nation safer. Could we learn from this tragedy so that it would not be repeated?

    We are forced to respond to Ms. Coulter’s accusations to set the record straight because we have been slandered.

    Contrary to Ms. Coulter’s statements, there was no joy in watching men that we loved burn alive. There was no happiness in telling our children that their fathers were never coming home again. We adored these men and miss them every day.

    It is in their honor and memory, that we will once again refocus the Nation’s attention to the real issues at hand: our lack of security, leadership and progress in the five years since 9/11.

    We are continuously reminded that we are still a nation at risk. Therefore, the following is a partial list of areas still desperately in need of attention and public outcry. We should continuously be holding the feet of our elected officials to the fire to fix these shortcomings.

    1. Homeland Security Funding based on risk. Inattention to this area causes police officers, firefighters and other emergency/first responder personnel to be ill equipped in emergencies. Fixing this will save lives on the day of the next attack.

    2. Intelligence Community Oversight. Without proper oversight, there exists no one joint, bicameral intelligence panel with power to both authorize and appropriate funding for intelligence activities. Without such funding we are unable to capitalize on all intelligence community resources and abilities to thwart potential terrorist attacks. Fixing this will save lives on the day of the next attack.

    3. Transportation Security. There has been no concerted effort to harden mass transportation security. Our planes, buses, subways, and railways remain under-protected and highly vulnerable. These are all identifiable soft targets of potential terrorist attack. The terror attacks in Spain and London attest to this fact. Fixing our transportation systems may save lives on the day of the next attack.

    4. Information Sharing among Intelligence Agencies. Information sharing among intelligence agencies has not improved since 9/11. The attacks on 9/11 could have been prevented had information been shared among intelligence agencies. On the day of the next attack, more lives may be saved if our intelligence agencies work together.

    5. Loose Nukes. A concerted effort has not been made to secure the thousands of loose nukes scattered around the world – particularly in the former Soviet Union. Securing these loose nukes could make it less likely for a terrorist group to use this method in an attack, thereby saving lives.

    6. Security at Chemical Plants, Nuclear Plants, Ports. We must, as a nation, secure these known and identifiable soft targets of Terrorism. Doing so will save many lives.

    7. Border Security. We continue to have porous borders and INS and Customs systems in shambles. We need a concerted effort to integrate our border security into the larger national security apparatus.

    8. Civil Liberties Oversight Board. Given the President’s NSA Surveillance Program and the re-instatement of the Patriot Act, this Nation is in dire need of a Civil Liberties Oversight Board to insure that a proper balance is found between national security versus the protection of our constitutional rights.

    -- September 11th Advocates

    Kristen Breitweiser
    Patty Casazza
    Monica Gabrielle
    Mindy Kleinberg
    Lorie Van Auken
     
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    Not just because of her dissing of the 9/11 widows, but because of her in general:

    Ann Coulter has not just one, but several, screws loose. When you watch her in an interview, she's like a rabid dog...no rationale, no reason. Pure vitriole and hate.

    And that's all the energy I'm going to expend on her. She's just not worth it.
     
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    How does she classify God-fearing, Christian liberals like me? I pray to the same God as she does, only I ask God to take the hate out of the hearts of people like her. (Oh wait! Maybe this is proof there is no God!) LOL!

    Anyway, I don't understand how you can be a Christian and not Love Your Neighbor as Yourself. Or ignore "Thou shalt not kill"? I don't get it. A true Christian would be a liberal if they followed their own theology and ideology. How can they go around and desacrate God's creation? She complains that liberals worship God's creation. Well, what do you think God wants us to do with it? Bomb it and burn it and pave it over at every opportunity?

    Right wing nut jobs are WACKO. Coulter is no different. She hasn't even thought through her own behavior.

    Nate
     
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    galaxee mostly benevolent

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    more proof that pretty much anyone can write a book, but the more people you piss off the better your sales get...
     
  6. Mystery Squid

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    Funny how a vocal woman who isn't afraid to voice her opinion is hated so much... :lol:

    She has got MANY of the qualities I look for in a woman. She REALLY speaks her mind, I love the way she makes soooo many people twitch!

    ANN MARRY ME!!!!! :lol:

    Love it! (if she only had dark hair though...)


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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Jun 7 2006, 10:40 PM) [snapback]267697[/snapback]</div>
    In an Austin Power's voice....."THAT'S A MAN, BABY!"
     
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    Squid, it's not that she's hated for having an opinion, she's hated because she's... what's the word I'm looking for...

    oh wait, got it, she's WRONG.

    Nate
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(The Amazing Arthur @ Jun 7 2006, 08:57 PM) [snapback]267701[/snapback]</div>

    :lol: :lol: :lol:
    Yep, them are some nasty lookin knees baby!... now if she just had a nose like mine!... ouh yea!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Jun 7 2006, 10:40 PM) [snapback]267697[/snapback]</div>
    Yeah, she's pretty hot but I saw her in an interview where she said guys that drive hybrids are whimpy, find me a guy with a big V8. .....broke my heart....
     
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    I admire her in a way because she has the balls to attack these people that the Left keep trotting out to spew their talking points and to Bush bash. Come on how many victims of terrorism and how many widows of the military have the Left used to mount these type attacks? Be right back gonna have to check into this one. . . Not even sure if I'm on track here but it seems to be one of their favorite ploys.

    Wildkow

    p.s. Get yer Ann Coulter action figure here, I got mine! . . .

    http://www.talkingpresidents.com/products-af-coulter.shtml

    p.p.s Good review of her book. . .

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadA...le.asp?ID=22829
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Jun 8 2006, 05:57 AM) [snapback]267799[/snapback]</div>
    Guess I wasn't too off track . . . dang didn't take long to trot this guy out and look he's running for office! :lol:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060608/pl_nm/...rqawi_berg_dc_5
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wildkow @ Jun 8 2006, 08:57 AM) [snapback]267799[/snapback]</div>
    It's funny how the left generally can't take criticism, and have a great tendency to whine profusely when they're attacked. This board is a great microcosm of that, as soon as they feel any "heat", they pretty much stick their heads within the sands of the ignore function... :lol:

    We need FAR MORE Ann Coulters in the world.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Jun 8 2006, 10:01 AM) [snapback]267856[/snapback]</div>
    So which is it that we do? Whine or ignore?

    I do neither. If there is a reasonable argument, with an opinion based on fact to debate, then I'm happy to do so. When the criticism is merely incendiary rhetoric with no basis in reality, then there's no reason to waste time.

    One thing the right, including Ann Bitter-Colder has done so beautifully is frame all of the political debates of the past 6 years within their own frame of reference--fear, smear, queer--and there's no point arguing it. When faced with real issues, they just return to their trifecta. So really, MS, who's sticking their "heads within the sands of the ignore function?"
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(livelychick @ Jun 8 2006, 11:10 AM) [snapback]267918[/snapback]</div>
    That's pretty subjective isn't it?

    Hey, she's the one out there shooting out her opinions, you can take them however you want, you call it "framing", someone else calls it the truth, again, totally subjective...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(livelychick @ Jun 8 2006, 11:10 AM) [snapback]267918[/snapback]</div>

    Some of these losers here (like MS) are just like Ann Coulter. No ideas, no rational arguments, no intellect- just hurling insults. Why do I "stick their heads within the sands of the ignore function"- not because I can't take the "heat", it's because I don't need to waste my time listening to nothing but bile.

    I mean, really, what kind of conversation can you have with Coulter, or people of her ilk? Sure, if I tried hard enough I could get down to their level- maybe say things such as, "conservatives should be bound, gagged, crammed into their Hummers and dropped into vats of toxic wastes produced by their petrochemical factories." OK, I admit that I'm not nearly as good at it as Ann Coulter, or Mystery Squid, but they've had much more practice.

    Ann Coulter has reached a new low, insulting the families of people who died in 9/11, but that's what she does. Even Fox "News", if you can believe it, says she has gone too far this time. The media laps it up- she's been all over television this week, hawking her latest piece of trash, and of course she's making millions doing this. It really pisses me off that people like Bill Maher give her a platform. No one should give this hate-monger the time of day. The best way to deal with Ann Coulter, like some of her disciples here, is "ignore."

    And I find it illuminating that all the "Christians" on PC have rushed in here, gushing in admiration over this she-devil. This hateful woman is some representative of Christian "values."
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(larkinmj @ Jun 8 2006, 11:44 AM) [snapback]267946[/snapback]</div>
    So Mikey, if all the females on this planet were to disappear, and all the males suddenly became homosexual, and Ann had the hots for you and ONLY YOU, would you, you know, like, copulate and impregnate her (thereby saving the human race from extinction), OR would you submit to homosexuality?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mystery Squid @ Jun 8 2006, 11:50 AM) [snapback]267951[/snapback]</div>
    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    He was in the navy it should be easy to bounce back and forth, not trying to defend him but you know what they say about those months out at sea and the ever popular shore *P*.. What happens at sea stays at sea.. :blink: :huh: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    I recieved this info via a married sailor.. B)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(priusguy04 @ Jun 8 2006, 12:04 PM) [snapback]267962[/snapback]</div>
    You seem to know an awful lot about that stuff- care to tell us about your experiences?