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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Audio and Electronics' started by TonyPriusuk08, Jan 17, 2017.

  1. TonyPriusuk08

    TonyPriusuk08 Junior Member

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    The sense lead has come out from where it's sits in the white connector and I don't know how to put it back in? So now I have Vsc and main system hazard sign on dashboard. I had an issue where I needed to replace the 12v auxiliary battery and couldn't get the ready notice without unplugging the battery. My wife unplugged the sensor plug by accident and the wire has popped out.I had the battery changed yesterday and Toyota tried to sting me for £1900 for a new hybrid inverter as the mfd has the battery icon on it and my understanding is if the sensor lead isn't connected it affects the AC/DC side of things? Can I just force the wire into where it looks like it comes out? Can someone with a 2008 t3 show me a picture of where the wire goes in. Or suggest somewhere other than Toyota to take the car. I'm in Orpington Kent UK.

    Thanks Tony
     
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    Hi Tony, sorry to hear of your troubles. Is it possible for you to upload a photo of the connector and the wire that has come out? Also one of plug into which the connector goes? It may help to get some context.

    Cheers.
     
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    Do you mean that wire came out of connector that’s marked as sense lead in this picture?
    http://techno-fandom.org/~hobbit/cars/prius-12V/
    First remove the connector from the battery terminal. If the pin isn’t damaged you should be able to just plug it back into the connector. Even if the pin has some damage (probably in the point that holds it in the connector) you should be able to make it stay in its place.
     
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    Hi yes it's the sense lead as per the link valde3 has provided. I dont know where the white cable goes back into the white plastic plug as it's been pulled out of the plastic push on clip. I will upload pictures at the weekend as it's dark by the time I get home from work. I will unplug the white plug and have a better look at a likely home for the piece of wire to go into. I was hoping someone may be able to unplug their cable then show a picture with the cable running into the white socket?
    Many thanks for your responses.
     
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    From this video you can see that it’s only 2 pin connector and wire goes into the right (passenger) side of that connector. Just as you can see it in the picture that I posted earlier.
     
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    In a RHD (as in the UK) that would be the driver's side.

    Here is a photo taken from the backseat looking to the back: 12 V Sense Wire.jpeg

    hope this helps
     
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    Ok great thanks a lot i will have a look at the weekend i really appreciate your help.
     
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    Had to buy some replacement cable and that wire won't stay in the so may have to solder does anybody know the name of this part so I can order a new one?
     
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    Name of what part? That connector is just part of the wiring harness and there’s no sense in replacing the whole wiring harness. The box on the battery positive terminal is fusible link block.

    If the connector is the problem then you should be able to buy repair connector from Toyota dealer. Repair connector is probably just connector with short wire or two going to it. You just solder/splice old wire into it. Or you could just cut the connector with short length of wire from junkyard Prius.
    Or of course you could just directly solder the wire to correct terminal of the fusible link block.
    Or you can use fuse tap like this
    on the place of that 5A fuse (that you can see on the dolj:s picture) and connect the wire to it. That fuse is there only for that sense wire so no problem doing it this way.
     
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    I live in the uk so I would need to know the exact name of what I need.its the white plug that I need to replace
     
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    Like I said it’s not the separate part. It’s part of the wiring harness and there’s no point replacing the whole wiring harness. That’s why I gave you four different options on how to repair it.
     
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    wait, did the wire pull out of the terminal, or did the terminal pull out of the white plastic plug? many terminals can be removed from the plastic plug with the end of a paperclip. if the terminal pulled out of the plastic connector, you just need to unplug the plastic connector and stick the terminal back in until it clicks, unless its damaged and won't lock back into the plastic. if the wire pulled out of the terminal, you might be able to remove the terminal with a paperclip and then recrimp or solder the wire back in the terminal. if the wire broke off the terminal, you need to see about buying another terminal.
     
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    image.jpg image.jpg Got the terminal out from the connector and where I have been forcing the wire in it's a bit bashed up.looked on a few component websites here in the U.K. and can't find that specific type of connector.
     
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    Don't know the name of the terminal connector?
     
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    Still looks salvable. So that ads one option on how to repair it.

    1. Remove white part of the connector from fusible link block. Solder the white wire to that part of connector bend the metal part so that it can stay in the white part of connector. And then just plug the connector back in.
    2. Get a repair connector from Toyota dealer. Repair connector is probably just connector with short wire or two going to it. And then just solder/splice old wire into it. Toyota dealership will be able to find the correct connector if you just describe where it’s in the car.
    3. Get connector from junkyard Prius. They should be able get the correct one if you just describe where it’s in the car.
    4. Use this type of fuse tap:

    In the place of 5A fuse and connect the white wire into it.
    5. Solder the white wire directly to fusible link block. Bit tight place to solder. After soldering just push heat shrink tubing over the soldering joint.
     
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    I'm sorry I don't understand Valdez 3.Im not electronically/technically minded sorry!. You need to say get this part from blah blah blah site and plug that into (picture) otherwise I can't understand.not being stupid. I went to Toyota and they were terrible.no help at all I then tried the equivalent of radio shack In the U.S which in the U.K. Is Maplins.very helpful but didn't have the part.so I'm stuck.
     
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    I give you five different options on how to repair it.

    You tried option 2 of getting the par from Toyota dealership. What did they say? Another Toyota dealer? Call them?

    Maybe the option 3. Of getting the part from junkyard?

    Or just go with the option 4. Just get that type of fuse tap that has place for the fuse. And you need the one for mini fuses. One that I gave you the link would be pretty much perfect.
     
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    if you have a junkyard nearby, just go take the connector and as much of the white wire as you can cut loose from the junk car, and splice it into your car. that's gonna be the easiest way since getting the correct terminal will take some time to find.
     
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    Yeah I will do that thanks for your help.
     
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    Is it safe to drive with this Sense lead cable out. On vacation and the cable came right out of the plastic clip thingy. Is it ok to drive a 2007 puirs for two days with out it probably 300 total. Till I get back to town and can get to the dealership. I replaced the 12 volt battery a year or so ago so it is not old. I don't want to damage the car.

    I would be willing to fix it myself if someone can tell me how