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Global Warming Caused Western USA "never ending drought" and now is causing flooding

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by mojo, Feb 21, 2017.

  1. mojo

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    Climate Science claims California / Texas drought is caused by CO2.Well ,your "never ending" prediction has abruptly been falsified.
    One day CO2 caused unending drought ,and the next day it causes torrential rains.Please explain how everything bad can be attributed to evil CO2.Jerry Brown has suddenly been ,not so much a big mouth.
    I could understand if CO2 possibly changed different geographical regions into drought/ flood areas.Like say the western USA was in drought and the Eastern USA was in flood.That might be acceptable BS.
    But I cannot can not fathom how the same level of CO2 can cause both drought and flooding in the same regions.
     
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    nature of the beast.
     
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    Did anyone on the pro-AGW side actually call this a "never ending" drought?
     
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    IF you really care about this, do some real research instead of just drawing invalid conclusions based only on tiny bits of isolated information.

    The simple answer is: The PATTERNS change and the swings become deeper and more severe.

    Just because you can't "fathom" something does not necessarily mean that it isn't real.
     
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    IIRC, some attributed the "ridiculously resilient ridge" over the Eastern Pacific to AGW. That was the primary reason for the lack of precip over most of the West Coast and clearly has broken down this year.
     
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    Once you hang around here awhile, you will see why most of us have given up on him. His rampant and never-retracted grade school insults, STFUs, and 'alternative facts' seem to make it a lost cause. A few more-hardy, -generous, -patient souls still hold a light out to illuminate a potential path for him. But the only reason I respond anymore is to help flag newbies to his 'alternative facts'.
     
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    My grandfather, a lifelong farmer, always said, "It usually rains after a long dry spell".
     
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    Yes, but did they frame it as "never ending"? Just wondering which side interjected the hyperbole.
     
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    Not sure.

    Here is one article on the "RRR".

    Rise of the 'Ridiculously Resilient Ridge': California drought patterns becoming more common, Stanford scientists say

    If you recall, there was a huge pool of very positive sea surface temperature anomalies in the Eastern North Pacific for several years. SSTs are now negative in that same region.

    [​IMG]

    SST anomalies there seem to correlate better than El Nino.
     
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    No one can predict weather events with any great accuracy. Weather patterns depend on temperatures of vast volumes of air, water, and land. They also depend on their heat transfers and currents. Anyone with a college degree would get this.

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    Actually its the responsibility of those making lame brain exaggerated claims to actually prove them.
    But the predictions were wrong so dont bother.Your Climate science isnt worth squat as the predictions are wrong.Ask Katherine Hayhoe if the Texas drought was caused by CO2.Shes an idiot.Anyone who believes her is an idiot.

     
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    Wash DC Cherry Blossoms will be very early this year as the record cold Polar Vortex of the prior two years has been replaced by record warm this year.
     
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    I'm sorry but you have it wrong.
    Anyone who refuses to believe something in the face of OVERWHELMING scientific expert evidence is the one who is the moron.
    But then it also is not surprising that a moron would not recognize that he IS one.
     
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    Climate scientific experts are paid shills who spout lies to get bigger better grants.Then I beg to differ.
     
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    Just because you found one moron who thinks she can predict weather doesn't make you look any smarter. How does this prove that CO2 isn't a Greenhouse gas?

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    I can think of no other cause (global warming) that regardless of the circumstances (heat, cold, rain, drought)
    there will be those that claim the circumstance proves the cause.

    That is an enviable situation ... where you are right, regardless of whatever occurs.
     
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    One very wet winter/spring does not end California's water issue for perpetuity.

    A very large and growing population has had a habit of abysmally inefficient water use in a region that has spent more than half the past two millennia in so-called 'drought'. It ought to be clear that newer and better water management practices -- or 'restrictions' as some folks denigrate them -- are needed in the long term even in the absence of any climate change.

    The archaic concept of a birthright to unmetered and unlimited water supply, in a typically arid climate, needs to be buried.
     
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