European "Prime" has different EV mode names

Just found the following in the European Manual for the "Prime". I don't find the descriptions very easy to follow.

It refers to the EV modes as EV, and EV City.

Does these map across to EV and EV Auto in the U.S. judging by what your manual says? Are they the same thing by a different name, or are they different in the way they work?

I can't see anywhere yet that it says whether there is a default that the car goes back to (as in the U.S. Prime), or whether it retains the last used setting.

I also note that it says that EV City mode is cancelled when you select DRCC! Is that similar to the Prime in the U.S.?

From the European Manual:
EV mode
When a sufficient amount of electricity is remaining after charging*1, EV driving is performed using electricity stored in the hybrid battery (traction battery).*2 When in EV mode, the EV drive mode indicator illuminates. *1: The amount of remaining charge can be checked on the multi-information display etc. (P. 227) *2: Depending on the situation, EV driving may be canceled and both gasoline engine and electric motor are used. (P. 98)
Plug-in hybrid system operation mode
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EV City mode
(P. 92) When a sufficient amount of electricity for EV driving is remaining in the hybrid battery (traction battery)*1, the operation mode can be switched to EV City mode. EV City mode limits motor output and minimizes the operation of the gasoline engine.*2 Therefore, the vehicle can be driven with only electric motor (traction motor) in city areas, etc. When in EV City mode, the EV City mode indicator illuminates. *1: The amount of remaining charge can be checked on the multi-information display etc. (P. 227) *2: When acceleration is required, fully depress the accelerator pedal to start the gasoline engine.

P.S. Apologies for the typo in the thread title. I can't edit it.

 

Exactly.

Interesting but confusing as you say. Yes am certainly seriously considering getting a UK "Prime"*. Need to see one and decide whether there it's enough hatch space but apart from that, at the newly lowered price, it would suit us very well indeed.

(*It would be much easier and better if Toyota would call it that outside the U.S. rather than PHV or is it PHEV?)

Will try BWilson he is in Europe is he? Thanks.

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Thanks. Good idea re comparing manuals.

I read it the other way round. EV City I took to be EV and EV I took to be EV Auto.

I will report back after comparing manuals.

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Ok. Comparing manuals doesn't help.

It almost sounds like there is no EV Auto mode, just an EV mode and a hobbled PiP mode!

I hope I'm wrong about that!

Note that it says in EV mode, "EV driving may be cancelled by rapid acceleration or vehicle speed". So both modes can be cancelled by hard acceleration, which I think might negate @BWilsonforweb's theory.

But what on earth does this mean, in EV city?

"Motor output is limited at the same level unless the accelerator pedal is fully depressed. When it is necessary to accelerate the vehicle, depress the accelerator pedal completely or cancel EV City mode as needed". ???

So NO acceleration is possible in this mode? I don't think so. Incredibly badly worded and unclear!!

It also says that DRCC use will cancel EV City. Why? I didn't read that in the U.S. Prime manual.

I had pretty much decided to buy one based on the U.S. Prime owners experiences but if they have messed up the European version, I might have to rethink!

Confused and unimpressed!

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DRCC is Dynamic Radar Cruise Control. Don't know why the car cancels EV City mode when you use DRCC. Does DRCC cancel any EV mode in the U.S.?

You are out of date re food in the UK. We are up there with the best these days. Can't say the same for our weather though.

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If only we knew! in theory, warmer weather is May/June to September. A well known journalist and author, Hunter Davies, said of the beautiful Lake District I which I live, that whatever the weather is doing at any given moment, "it will change", so if you go on a walk, take a variety of clothing with you, and a rucksack to put the extra layers in during the warmer and dryer times (minutes or hours).

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P.s. Found this in the Car magazine review of the uk Plugin, looks like I was right about which mode is which:

"For best results, serve in EV mode; press the respective button to put the Prius Plug-in’s petrol engine into lockdown and you almost get a BMW i3-matching feeling of responsiveness and a potential all-electric top speed of 84mph. It may not have the German car’s speed, but the Prius feels more than fast enough for urban settings, and it’s surprisingly agile around corners too – perfect for dodging London buses and maintaining momentum for maximum range.

Hybrid HV mode, meanwhile, juggles petrol power and electric energy for itself, while a super-pious EV City mode slashes the batteries power only calling on under-bonnet fossil fuel fireworks when you mash the throttle into the bulkhead."

And this from DriveEV:

"EV Mode primarily uses electric power from the HV battery to drive the vehicle, only starting the engine when the throttle is wide open or at high vehicle speeds. It incorporates a switchable EV City Mode, which reduces maximum power output and only starts the engine when the throttle kick-down is engaged, allowing the new Toyota PHV to run on electric power alone for as long as possible."

This from the Telegraph:
"you can also select EV mode, which drives on battery power almost continually until it's empty, Hybrid mode which combines petrol and electric modes to best effect, Charge mode which uses the petrol engine to recharge the battery as well as drive the car and EV City is a low-power EV mode."

And this from Auto Express:

" EV mode sticks to pure-electric power, only using the petrol engine when the throttle is wide open - and it has a further setting, EV City, where power is reduced for even greater range in lower-speed urban environments."

The odd thing is where does MG2 for in to all this? It's hard to see in these descriptions when or even whether we get the benefit of two motor operation.

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