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Want to Ck OUT a 2003, but Im SO new, I need Experts

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  1. Brian in Tucson

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    334 is a sensor malfunction. Google search this: P3125 and SubCode 332

    On the first page of results, there will be a link
    DTC P3125 Converter & Inverter Assembly ... - Techno-Fandom

    Which will take you to an auto download Pdf. file. It has a listing of the appropriate codes.
     
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    What a great RESOURCE Brian !! THanks a million !!
    Greg
     
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    This one depends on how long it's been sitting. HV batteries don't respond well to sitting for long periods of time It would be nice if you could actually get it started. 12v battery is the easy part, any old car battery will do if you jump it to the Prius battery in the trunk.Being able to put it in drive and take a turn around the block would be a bonus. A/C would be nice, too. At the very least, if you can get the dash to light up, you can see the guage for the HV battery and hook up your Techstream to see the condition of the cells, battery cooling fan, and pull any latent codes. If you get this far, jump on it with both feet and tow it home.
     
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    You're gonna have to develop some level of expertise. If it's just a FUBAR sensor, rather than a totally FUBAR inverter, you may be able to find the sensor in the after market or at a wrecking yard. Rather than a whole inverter. IF the batteries are okay, this thing will be just a puzzle to figure out. Wouldn't mind having one, myself.:eek:

    IF the HV battery just has some bad cells, one of the other Gen 1's you've looked at may be a good resource for the replacement stuff & other parts. I'd try to msg Linda L again and see if she's sold hers, and the one you looked at earlier might be a good parts resource. And any wrecking yard within about 300 miles might be a good source (I know locations in Phoenix that would/could provide parts.)

    BTW, that charge/discharge cable that Hybrid Automotive sells would allow you to connect a free Multimeter from Harbor Freight to the HV battery--those little red pieces of junk are actually up to the task. If you wanted to make your own harness, the installation instructions Hybrid Automotive has online will show you which lugs to attach the wires. THere are precautions, but if I could do it, pretty much anyone with a modicum of automotive sense could do it. Be sure to fuse the hot cable.
     
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    I would think this is a very specific code. Solve the subcode part, and the primary code goes away, doesn't it?
     
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    Well, thanks to you, I downloaded the pdf you provided above and got the 332 code deciphered.
    332. =. Generator Inverter current sensor malfunction ( V phase main sensor )
    What do you think this is?
    Thanks everyone.
    I go to look at the car this weekend, sure would like to know if this is fixable...and how
    Greg
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    So, now I have more history. This 2003 is wreck free, 2 owner, dealer maintained (I checked it out,true..) with new Cat, 1.5 yrs ago, new 12v aux batt 2.0 yrs ago, rear drum brake service turn drums, 2.5 yrs ago, New AC compressor 3.0 yrs ago, and it still blows ice cold. The CD Disc player works, and the 4 tires are practically new. 184,500 miles.
    Here's the BAD.
    Yellow ck eng plus the console warning screen comes on daily. The warning screen he shot a picture shows PS. Main +\- Battery box, and a Red Car with an exclamation mark.
    Owner states :
    I am told by the mechanics at the dealership that the hybrid engine needs to be replaced because they say that the inverter is going out. The yellow check engine light and the warning screen on the console come on almost daily. After driving highway speed for a few minutes all the warning & check engine lights will come on and the transmission will shift into a lower gear and then the car won't go any faster than about 60 mph. If you stop the car and turn off the engine and turn it on again you can get back on the highway and drive highway speed again... for a few minutes, until the lights and warnings go off again. It is due for inspection and registration by the end of February.
    So what kind of advice can anyone give me? The dealership pdf I looked at verify all the repairs and a new HV battery pack dealer installed JUN 2014.
    DTC P3125, detail 332 which means, according to the wonderful info from Brian above, 332= Generator inverter current sensor V phase performance problem...
    I am told by the mechanics at the dealership that the hybrid engine needs to be replaced because they say that the inverter is going out. The yellow check engine light and the warning screen on the console come on almost daily. After driving highway speed for a few minutes all the warning & check engine lights will come on and the transmission will shift into a lower gear and then the car won't go any faster than about 60 mph. If you stop the car and turn off the engine and turn it on again you can get back on the highway and drive highway speed again... for a few minutes, until the lights and warnings go off again. It is due for inspection and registration by the end of February.
    What do I Do.... I have rented a regular car trailer from U Haul to go get this car if it checks out, and I hope my Mini VCI I can get to working, as I have never hooked it into a Prius before....
    God Help me.. Hahahahaha!

    Thanks Greg
     
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    Greg, I looked at the ad on Craigslist. It looks like a decent deal--heck it runs & drives. Don't quite understand why he says it needs a hybrid drive, looks to me like a replacement inverter is the answer. I would get it, if it were me. Lots of them on Ebay. Probably should replace the inverter pump, too.

    In your area, there are several independent Hybrid shops, google them. Take everything you know out to them and pick their brains. Things that are a mystery to you and me are things a trained expert will know. They'll be able to tell you whether it's going to be a money pit or not, too.
     
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    Sure hoping I can fix this myself. I will need advice for sure ! I am a little scared, as I don't know everything that could be wrong.
    So, I will google Hybrid Shops in Houston ? Is that the correct vernacular.. ?? And ask maybe the Houston Group, If I can figure out where they are on here. Thanks Brian.
    Anybody else have suggestions, PLEASE !!!!
    Greg
     
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    Google: hybrid auto repair houston and you'll get some ideas.
     
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    I did this, and yes there are some good guys on there. I found one who will even hook up his Snap ON Scanner for me...No Charge. He doesn't do Inverters, but gave me GreenTecauto.com for refurbished Inverters $1000 with 24 mo. warranty.
    Not Bad. Im reading the GEN 1 with 3100 and 3125 threads and they have the 332 subcode information, but there is a lot of technical stuff about crossing the OBDII pins to release the HV ECU that is foggy for me.....
    I will waller through this though. I think Im gonna get a good deal in the amount of dealership things already done to this car. I see there is some R Front quarter panel dents, and someone should have a new R front fender for this car somewhere..
    Thanks Brian
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    Hi Greg: you asked me to comment on your string.

    1. Your OP says you want a learning experience and you are up for whatever repairs are needed. Since you own a Tesla I assume you have adequate financial resources to expend into this hobby. I think buying a used Prius in unknown condition is a really bad choice for someone who can barely afford the purchase price, never mind the cost of unknown repairs. So that rules out impoverished college students, as one example.

    2. Personally, I do not like the Classic Prius compared to the 2G Prius which is a much better design.
    - body looks like a Toyota Echo
    - traction battery has poor design and will leak
    - hybrid drivetrain control is still at the science experiment stage

    That is why I sold my 2001 at a relatively low odometer reading. However if you like the "underdog" then the Classic might be a good choice.

    3. You need to get Mini VCI working at your convenience, using a Toyota vehicle that is operational. Then you will understand how it works, how to establish communications with the vehicle, etc. You don't want to be learning how to do this on a car that has who knows what issues.

    4. If a subject Prius has a dead 12V battery, you are not going to retrieve much DTC even if you know how to use Mini VCI, since most ECU memory is erased when power is lost. The exceptions are the skid control ECU and SRS ECU with 2G. I'm not sure whether any Classic ECUs retain memory when 12V power is lost.

    5. Buy a not-running Prius at your risk as many issues could be present and not all are sufficiently obvious to understand what to fix. A wiring harness fault due to accident or flood is one example. If the car experiences communications problems between the ECUs, are you going to re-run wiring to all of the ECUs to fix that?

    6. Good luck with your decision.
     
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    Patrick, I pulled up the Austin Craigslist ad for a look. For a cheap project Prius, this one looks very good. It does start and run, and is driveable (tho in limp mode) out on the road. It's a fairly nice looking car, not a beater. As you said, Greg doesn't seem like some young kid and appears to be financially capable of fixing this car. Gen 1's are good opportunities to learn the system, too.

    I have an 03, and I don't quite agree on the styling. Doesn't look like an Echo, more like a Corolla or an old Tercel. I think the distinctive styling of Gen 2's and after is rather unfortunate--I'd have a later generation, probably a plugin hybrid, but certainly not for the bodywork or the dead colors. We are yet to see how my 03 handles our S. Az weather. But mine's a Tucson car (bought new and serviced at Precision Toyota ) so it should be up to the task.

    If Greg's prospective Prius were local, and I had the space and cash for a project, I'd probably jump on this one.
     
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    Thanks Patrick, for weighing in. I have enjoyed your comments on Prius Chat.
    I am tending to agree with you after reading your response , and will likely start a quest for the most advanced Prius next. I'm liking the Gen4 as I have seen the way they build the assemblies, from a post on the Gen4 area. Very much different than the MG1 & MG2 assemblies of Gen1 vehicles. So, you're right.
    I certainly want to thank you again!
    Greg
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    Well, Brian, I am letting this 03 go, I just couldn't do a transaxle after I put in an inverter, etc.. Seems like I would have a hell of a time getting rid of it after I got it fixed too, unless I gave it to a friend in need I know of.
    So,now, all of you out there, see Craigslist AUStin, and get with Dean the owner.
    Greg
     
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    Looking at another 03 with 109 k miles and " bad hybrid battery" today, 4/6/17 will pull codes and be back on here with all that.
    Greg
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    Good luck wid dat! I should hear from Linda L. today or tomorrow about when I can motor over and pick up mine. Don't know whether it will run, but the take off's and even a rebuildable/core traction batteries make it worth the money and time. If it's a dead one, I can at least salvage the factory GPS components.
     
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    What a mess this car was... Totally misrepresented, even the mileage...Advertised as 109 k miles was 190.... The ad ran for 26 days that way. P3191 p3006
    12v was dead, jump box = car got to ready and started. It ran until HV batt charged. Body damage all over ever panel,( adv as perfect ) and ABS light and flat to the floor brakes. Hahahahahha !! $1495, and it was a "private owner sale" and this dude was a dealer who bought it from an auction..
    I Walk..I'm safe!!
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    Sounds like a parts car. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, Eh?
     
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