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NY's Electric car rebate

Discussion in 'Prime Main Forum (2017-2022)' started by priuscatprimeguy, Mar 24, 2017.

  1. priuscatprimeguy

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    interesting way to go about things. we need all the incentives we can get, but i suppose most tesla potential buyers won't be put off.
     
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    The model 3 starts at $35k
     
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    should get to new york by 2020, and then buyers will get the full 2k.
     
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    I think you will see them in 12 months.

    Tesla has a well deserved reputation for being late, but a lot points to them actually being ahead of schedule with the Model 3. Release Candidate cars are coming off the production line next week, and the first deliveries to Tesla employees is slated for around August. Ramp up through the fall and then full steam ahead at a clip of 5,000 - 10,000 a week from the end of the year.
     
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    but they won't be $35,000.
     
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    Why not ?
     
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    it was stated that they would be loaded up for the foreseeable future.
     
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    I'm not sure what that means or what "foreseeable" really means either. Do you have a link ?
     
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    no, i read it quite awhile ago, i don't know either. it's discussed over in the tesla threads, but likely, it's not a fixed date or number of cars. perhaps the tesla experts here have more insight, @Zythryn and @hill .
     
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    That just means you were reading some Joe with morning anxiety.
     
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    maybe, maybe not. but if you're expecting to get a $35,000.vehicle in the beginning of production, i wish you the best.(y)
     
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    In the past, Tesla has come out with optioned cars first, and then cars with fewer options.
    I don't know about "foreseeable" but in the past, each step typically took a few months.

    The Model 3 is a change in magnitude and market and there are numerous signs this will not be the case.

    First, previously this was done because Tesla was desperate for cash. The higher optioned cars had higher profit margins.
    Tesla is much less cash strapped (please note, I said "less" not "not at all") so the need for the higher profit margin cars first is not as critical.

    Second indication is that the first cars are going to employees. While the executives might be happy to order fully loaded Model 3s, the majority of employees would be unlikely to.

    Third, Tesla recently announced AWD and the Performance model will not be available at launch. That kind of wipes out much of the higher trim cars.

    I would not suggest anyone plan an exact cost before prices are official and availability/options are announced. But that is the case with any car, be it a Toyota, Tesla, or anything else.

    Likewise, I wouldn't be so quick to conclude you won't be able to get it at that price until the official prices/options are listed.
     
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    Exactly. Musk has decided to first ramp up production and handle the large order back log. This will also presumably let Tesla maximize the number of customers who receive fat tax credit rebates. This strategy is actually a change from that announced during the 3/2016 reveal and I presume a reaction to the mountain of reservations received.
     
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    Out the door - any new Tesla (at this time) is easily going to be over $75K, for one thing. But it isn't that ANYone needs a rebate - it's that the rebate schemes are seriously gamed by power (fossil fuel lobby) brokers;
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    We can BARELY afford a Tesla, and a rebate can make or break the difference. In fact - the plugin rebate schemes are more gamed than most can grasp. Best example - if you CAN barely afford a Tesla, you're more likely than ever to fall under AMT (alternative minimum tax) rules, that in huge part, exempt you from using such plugin tax credits. Then, the more you make (just to afford more tax) - the more tax you pay ... until one is WAY up over the ¼million household income. Cali does the same thing. You can't get credits for a Tesla if household income is over $300K (whoops .... unless you buy a fool cell car - legislation that Toyota {& just a few others} seriously pushed across the table - but they primarily reform on fossil fuels - ergo, no problem for the power brokers). So it's NOT that the power brokers want to take away the credit completely ... it's taking it away from those most likely to use it on products most likely to advance the tech. So it's perspective ... which side of the fence are you looking at it from ... and who is explaining the rational for gimmy's & take-aways.
     
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    NYS rebate for the prius Prime is only $1100 :>(