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Who has had brake actuator and pump failure - 2010 Prius?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by JoInAZ, Nov 17, 2016.

  1. JoInAZ

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    Just took my 2010 Prius in with barking brakes and continuous pump whine and was handed an estimate for $4,629 to repair it: "Replace and bleed ABS brake actuator and pump (internal leak in brake pump leaking nitrogen into actuator.)" The service guy said he would toss it up to management and see if Toyota would give me some relief. But I came home, did research and learned that Toyota issued Warranty Enhancement ZG-1 for this very issue on April 19, 2016 that covers Prius 2005-2009.

    When I called back my service rep with this information, he admitted he knew about the problem for the Generation 2 models but that Generation 3 wasn't included and "there are some design changes between the Gen 2 and Gen 3." I wanted to say, "Well, obviously not enough of a design change, eh?" This is clearly a continuing issue.

    Has anyone else with a Gen 3 Prius experienced this problem and, more importantly, have you had you have success in getting Toyota to cover the cost? If so, can you recommend a course of action I should take?

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    There was a recall related to this: did you get notice, have it done? I've got a notification letter (from Toyota Canada) dated August 2016, with "SOSH-966-1A" under the date. The title is:

    2010 Model Year Prius
    Brake Booster Pump Assembly
    (Pre-Notification)
    Also, on my invoice from dealership service department when the recall was done:

    CONDITION: CAMPAIGN 197: BRAKE BOOSTER PUMP
    QC<4>

    CORRECTION: Check the caution label
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    Replace the brake booster pump assembly
    REPLACED BRAKE FLUID

    And Part No:

    04002-20247 PUMP ASSY, BRK BO
     
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    Some of the recall notice text:

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    Our 2011 has been making what I guess you are describing as the barking sounds, usually when the brakes are pressed harder than normal.

    Haven't received any notices of a brake booster recall though. Hopefully, we receive it soon, as it is happening pretty frequently.
     
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    The Canadian Recall was August 2013. I thought it was in the 'States too??
     
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    I looked at Toyota Canada's recall site and found a reference to "voluntary safety campaign" that included the 2010 Prius and describes the nitrogen leak that my service tech diagnosed. It's the very last entry in this PDF.
    http://media.toyota.ca/internal_redirect/cms.ipressroom.com.s3.amazonaws.com/152/files/20144/Toyota_Canada_Notice_of_Defect_Summary_2009-Present_EN.pdf

    Description:
    The subject vehicles are equipped with brake pressure
    accumulators consisting of a metal plunger containing brake
    fluid encased in a metal housing. The plunger is designed
    with metal pleated bellows to allow for motion. Nitrogen gas
    is sealed between the plunger and housing. There is a
    possibility that a fatigue crack could develop in the bellows
    due to the vertical vibration of the plunger while driving. If
    this occurs, nitrogen gas could leak into the brake fluid and
    gradually cause the brake pedal stroke to become longer,
    resulting in decreased hydraulic pressure. Under certain
    circumstances, this condition could affect stopping distance
    and increase the risk of a crash.

    No, this hasn't been issued in the U.S., from what I can see on Toyota USA recall or voluntary recall sites.

    I asked the service tech how dangerous it was to drive the car in this condition. I didn't get a solid answer on that. It can't be safe.

    I misspoke on the estimate earlier. The first page showed $4,629. Add in supplies and tax and we're at $5,062.99. Ridiculous.
     
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    I thought the recall was in the States too. I'm sure this was a hot topic here in 2013. But to quote @bisco: I can't remember what I had for breakfast.

    Even if the recall did NOT extend to the States, the fact that they had a recall in Canada could be ammo in any communication you have with Toyota.
     
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    I would agree with that. The 2005-2009 US recall covers the actuator and the Toyota Canada voluntary recall covers the pump. If I were an attorney, which I'm not, I would say that's a pretty strong case for them to cover it.
     
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    Sounds like those commercials: "I'm not a doctor but...". ;)

    Yeah, couple the Canadian recall with the preposterous charge, and hopefully Toyota will come across.
     
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    good luck with the goodwill help from toyota!(y)
     
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    I have a 2011, and just had the very same problem with the actuator yesterday. I am having to pay about $4500 to have this replaced, and I am furious to find out there was a recall and warranty on the last generation of Prius... Obviously this is an ongoing issue, and making us pay for something so expensive when they admitted it was a problem seems ridiculous. Any advice?
     
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    Try talking to Toyo? Even if they do something like pay half.
     
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    My 2010 is covered under a recall. I had total brake failure and the dash light up like a Christmas tree. Brought in before the recall was released and it was repaired under my extended warranty. Then got recall notice, so I guess there was an internal fund transfer.

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    Can you please post any details on the recall or any links to information on the recall. I think our 2011 also has problems with the brake actuator.

    We have an extended warranty, but would rather have it taken care of under a recall, if possible. Thanks.
     
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    I got no relief from Toyota corporate, and the dealer could only shave a bit off the price. I ended up going to an independent Toyota service center for a second opinion. They tried every angle but couldn't get a new ABS for any less than what the dealer would have charged. So they suggested and I agreed to put a used ABS in the car. Total cost $1800 and it came with a year's warranty, which is the same that I would have had for a brand new part. This ABS came from a 2012 Prius with 55,000 miles on it. The year gets it beyond the problems with the old ABS, which ended sometime in 2010. And the low mileage tells me I'll most likely get plenty of miles on this ABS. I had that done in November. I've had no problems whatsoever. This service center has put in several with used parts. They did, however, recommend that I have the car completely checked over before I made this investment so that I wouldn't also be incurring big expense for something else I didn't know about. The inspection showed a very clean car with no costly issues on the horizon. So I opted to go ahead. And I am returning to them for all future service.

    Keep in mind that by putting in a used part, I have relinquished any relief rights with Toyota. Had I put in the costly new part, IF -- big IF -- Toyota ever decided to include my car under the recall, I would have sought relief.
     
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    I have a 2010 prius and my mechanic said the huffing sound I hear is the brake actuator/accumulator and that it's under recall. When my husband called my local Toyota they ran my VIN and said no only the EGR valve was:/ Everything I'm reading says 2010's are supposed to be covered so I'm curious what the recourse is to get this handled. Sounds like a huge safety issue that Toyota needs to own up to!!
     
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    I can't remember the cutoff for the manufacturing date, but I recall that 2010 vehicles made up until June or July of that year are covered. Those manufactured after that date are not. Mine fell into that group. I replaced the ABS with a used part procured by an independent Toyota service repair shop. I'm staying away from the dealers, who were no help.
     
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    Ours probably was as well, Toyota has been no help outside of saying they can fix it and want to "talk". We will probably go that route as well, what I thought would be an easy cheap fix is looking more and more expensive
     
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    No cheap fix, but it was $1,800 rather than $5,000 at the dealer. And the warranty was the same: 1 year. My replacement came out of a 2012 Prius that had 50,000 miles on it. So I feel pretty confident. Heck, if it fails, I can buy another one for $1,800 and still be ahead of the dealer's cost.
     
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