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Have We Got More Brains Than A High Wind?

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by airportkid, Jun 26, 2006.

  1. airportkid

    airportkid Will Fly For Food

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    I apologize for the preachiness of what follows; I hadn't the time to go back and recast the essay in a more elegant tone (or even just coherently). But it's something I've been itching to say for several years, so, for good or worse, I'm letting fly:


    I have seen often and in diverse contexts the assertion that terrorists are out to destroy our rights and liberty, but no one has claimed that hurricanes, tsunamis, tornados or earthquakes also threaten our rights and liberty, and this absence is puzzling, because the only difference between what a terrorist does and what bad weather does is that what the terrorist does is considerably less extreme, less destructive and less disruptive than what bad weather does. If a terrorist is capable of destroying our rights and liberty by demolishing a few structures and killing a number of people, certainly a hurricane the ferocity of Katrina, which demolished most of an entire city and killed hundreds of people, should have blown our rights and liberty halfway across the Gulf of Mexico and sunk them there. So far as I know, that didn’t happen.

    Unless terrorists do something that bad weather doesn’t, our rights and liberty are safe from the worst of their puny depradations. No terrorist storms the halls of government and places himself and his minions into the seats of power. Only an invading army could do that. Some terrorists have blown up the halls of government, and assassinated government officers, but none have assumed the throne of power themselves. Explosions and murder are easy; so easy that something brainless and disorganized as bad weather can accomplish it. But gripping and holding onto power requires a mastery of forces that transcend mere violence, and no terrorist has ever demonstrated even recognition of such forces, let alone a willingness to accept the responsibilities that accompany them. So our rights and liberty have as much to fear from terrorists as from bad weather.

    What our rights and liberty do have a great deal to fear is ourselves. We don’t dump our rights and liberty overboard when a hurricane swollen tsunami washes out a whole city, but we fall all over ourselves ditching rights and liberty like hot grenades if a terrorist blows up a building. One would think, watching us, that the loss of a single building meant more to us than the loss of an entire city.

    One would wonder how we could possibly claim that we value rights and liberty when we can be so easily spooked into discarding them, and one couldn’t help but regard us as hopelessly neurotic when we claim that by discarding them we are protecting them.

    We need to wise up. If our rights and liberty mean so much to us, we shouldn’t grant power of proxy to a terrorist to undo them: he does the easy job of razing an office building downtown, and we do the more difficult job for him of tossing out the 1st, 4th and 5th amendments. How smart is that, doing injury to ourselves for a terrorist that he’s powerless to do himself?

    We need to wise up. A terrorist is less threat to us than the weather, and like bad weather, not worth even denting our rights and liberty over. They are precious beyond price. A terrorist isn’t worth the breath of air it takes to speak his name.

    Should we look for terrorists? Sure, but not with such zeal we destroy what’s valuable in the process, and do more damage to ourselves than what a terrorist would have done if we failed to find him. Should finding them be our top priority? Well, what matters? If our lives and property are important, we should devote most of our efforts at protecting them from significant threats like bad weather, disease, urban decay, domestic violence, traffic fatalities, to name just a few of the problems that fear of terrorism has eclipsed. Terrorism is rare; weather, disease, urban decay, domestic violence and traffic fatalities afflict us every day.

    Where do you think we should direct our ingenuity, our time, our energy?
     
  2. imntacrook

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    The question I have (as in another post somewhere else by someone else) is: What rights and liberty have we lost? Maybe slower lines in airports, but what else?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mirza @ Jun 27 2006, 10:08 AM) [snapback]277330[/snapback]</div>
    From the article: Government-sanctioned intolerance has even trickled into our private lives. People brandishing anti-war signs or slogans have been turned away from commuter trains in Seattle and suburban shopping malls in upstate New York. Cafeterias are serving "freedom fries." Country music stations stopped playing Dixie Chicks songs, and the Baseball Hall of Fame cancelled an event featuring "Bull Durham" stars Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon, after they spoke out against the war on Iraq.

    Holy Cow! We're serving "Freedom Fries" and the Dixie Chicks are getting dissed from the country folks!!Call the ACLU.
     
  5. Proco

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(imntacrook @ Jun 27 2006, 10:12 AM) [snapback]277331[/snapback]</div>
    Would this be the same ACLU that came to the defense of Rush Limbaugh?
     
  6. Mirza

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    Oye, should have known better and gotten it from a different site... but I think the first article is good enough.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mirza @ Jun 27 2006, 07:08 AM) [snapback]277330[/snapback]</div>

    The second link requires me to tell the Sacramento Bee some private data, so I declined :rolleyes:

    The first pointed to some alleged cases of library 'snooping', but was mostly stating things like 'freedom fries' and other private party reactions to 9/11, like the negative comments that some directed at the Dixie Chicks, or some radio stations not palying their music. You know, the 'guvmint' did not tell the stations or public to react to the Dixie Chicks' comments, they did that themselves.

    To the best of my knowledge, nothing noted in the ACLU piece was new in the sense that all of this data could have been obtained through normal, court-directed actions and subpoenas.
     
  8. Mirza

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    Hmmmmm not sure why it asked you that... it did not ask me for data.