OIL OIL OIL

here is a very very interesting article talking about oil. i guess some scientists are beginning to think that oil is not an organic product but a contaminated inorganic product that is not the result of millions of years of fossilized decay but an ongoing process deep inside the Earth.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=38645

what do you all think?? valid article or propaganda BS started by the oil companies in order to create a more accepting atmosphere for more drilling exploration??

and if this were true, considering the growing volume of oil being used (this year, China past Japan as the #2 user of oil) are we headed towards an Earth that is nothing but a giant hollow ball??

 

ummm we do get our oil from Canada...

in fact, the middle east is not our main foreign oil supplier. they are not 2nd or even 3rd.

Canada is #1 (this of course doesnt count the oil from the US

Mexico is #2
Venezuala is 3rd.
Saudi Arabia is 4th contributing 11% of the oil we import.

but i think the article is smoke and a weak attempt at justifying destruction of sensitive ecological areas for large oil deposits that MIGHT be there. iow, oil companies feel that if they can say that there is a trillion barrels of oil in a possible spot that we would be more willing then if the oil company said "well we dont know if there is any oil there at all, but the rock and sand formations are favorable that SOME oil can probably be found.

its my opinion that if the earth was producing oil continously, then we should be able to get the oil out of the ground everywhere that the mantle is close enough to the surface and that simply aint the case.

also, although the article doesnt state it, only a handful of geologists ( every one working for the oil companies) actually subscribes to this theory.

ok fine, even if it is true, oil still destroys the environment in other ways besides accidental spills. and no matter how its made, it is still coming from the Earth and must leave some sort of void since the byproducts of oil comsumption will not be recycled and put back several hundred miles below the surface. i also read another article that says that many planets in our solar system were like earth until the gases (some in the form of crude oil) bubbled to the surface and separated into its components and eventually degraded to methane. well, if that happens here, we will all die. and burning the oil is quickening the process.

i spent over an hour looking for the article, but unfortunately, i read it about 2-3 years ago and i cant remember anything other than its main focus was global warming. i kind of thought that it might have been from the New York Times but the charge to search the archives that far back and i said "noper".

but anything that is published on line is quoted or archived in at least 3 or 4 other places if it has any kind of circulation so i will continue to keep my eyes open.

 

well i support the hollow ball theory. the hollow ball theory says that we will continue to burn oil until the earth is a hollow ball since the oil came from deep inside the center.

as the earth hollows out, it will create a massive imbalance in the overall density of the earth creating havoc with the earths rotation around the sun.

but the real danger will happen when the moon becomes heavier than us and we start to revolve around the moon and then as time marches on, our orbit will slowly decay resulting in a cataclysmic collision with the moon resulting in the end of all life on earth as we know it.

of course the cockroaches and rats will survive but no one else...

P.S.
the above is my own personal theory. i think it is just as valid as the perpetual oil theory.

 

thanks for the explanation charlie:

this is so deja vu. last night workers at my apartment complex were working on a leak on the roof and broke my satellite dish. well before i realized that i only needed to remount it to the bracket i was stuck with the free extended cable that comes with the apartment.

with a minimal amount of shows on my tivo, i ended up watching the movie "O Brother, Where Art Thou" on a canadian station. after the movie was over, the national canadian news came on. (i admit, i wasnt really dedicated to watching it and during each commercial i was posting to this forum.)

their lead story was on Alberta finally emerging from debt because of oil revenue. i guess before they started extracting the oil, they were 29 billion dollars in debt despite having reduced services for schools, etc to a minimum. the story was definitely spun since it was all positive and didnt mention the toxic waste being generated, (although the population is so low, that they could easily store a huge amount without endangering anyone. they did take steps to prevent birds from being caught up in the mess)

as i watched the story, i did wonder why it took so long for Alberta to make money since some middle east countries make more than 29 billion every year. they didnt mention the huge cost and extra steps necessary to produce the oil. i am familiar with the process as there are several sites in Texas, Okalahoma and Lousisana that were abandoned because it was felt that the yield wasnt worth the risk since the areas contained much more people and the ability to store large pools of waste would be prohibitively expensive.

just goes to show ya how easily, tv news and create, alter and mold public opinion. for an industry that preaches impartiality, i feel extremely cheated to the point that i look at national news as no better than any of the news magazine shows on tv. mind you, nearly all have been caught manufacturing news or altering events in order to make a more "entertaining" show. (does anyone remember exploding gas tanks and pickups??)

 

granted, it doesnt work nearly as efficiently in an ICE, but the fact is that energy is created and mass is lost. besides the hollow ball theory does not say that mass is lost. it says that mass is displaced. i guess i need to explain the theory completely.

as the Earth's mass is converted from oil to greenhouse gasses, its density is reduced. the overall weight is not changed much but the laws of centripetal and centrifugal force says that eventually as the mass of the earth shifts from the middle to the outside that the forces of gravity that holds out atmosphere to the surface of the Earth will lessen its grip creating a much larger cushion of air as the earths rotational forces pushes the lighter than air gasses further and further away from Earths center.

the hollow ball theory is based on the fact that there is no man made or surface phenomena that can reconstitute the mess we are amassing on the surface back into oil. iow, its a one way process. so the axion, "what comes out, must be eventually replaced or else" applies.

the hollow ball theory is the inevitable conclusion to our senseless destruction of the planet. now i am not going to address the consequences of what will happen to us when the concentration of gasses becomes high enough that effects of sunlight and radiation will start creating new poisonous gasses that will kill us by destroying the ozone that protects us from getting skin cancer.


NOTE: Now before people who havent read the entire post start to panic, The Hollow Ball Theory i something i made up. i did so in jest to illustrate the irresponsibility demostrated by the scientists who have presented the "endless oil" theory. Actually, i dont think scientific evidence played much of a part in the "endless oil" announcement. i believe the ultimate agenda is completely based in greed.

 

actually the lighter than air reference was to methane that is released as we pump oil.

and the Earth's weight is not static. in fact some scientists feel that we gain several thousand pounds from meteorites every year.

also, the atmosphere is not trapped to Earth. we do lose random molecules all the time. but we also gain cosmic dust too so whether we are actually losing weight or gaining weight, i doubt that anyone knows for sure.

also space is a vacuum? nope... nature abhors a vacuum, even in space. space still has random molecules, primarily hydrogen, helium, etc. these particles tend to not clump because of their low density and more importantly, they dont freeze and form ice as quickly making it tougher to "precipatat4e" the gases. but the density of molecules in space is pretty slim and is controlled by planatary gravatational forces. so the atmospheric density is directly proportional to the distance from the center of the mass that is the predominate gravitational force. when we add more atmosphere to the surface of the Earth, the atmospheric pressure does not increase nor does the Earths atmospheric aura increase in size dramatically. what happens instead is the additional molecules simply get pushed out into space where they find a suitable "vacant" spot in the universe in which to settle. it is basically a domino effect.

now since we are not talking about gases in a closed container, it does take time for the equilibrium particle density to settle. in fact, it never really settles which contributes to many things including radical weather.

but the hollow ball theory is based on the redistribution of weight

it would be like a movable cam on a rotating shaft or worse a worn cam where bad bearing causes unpredictable weight shifts.

now the Earth is a big boy, so we obviously need to shift a lot of weight to make a difference. but add the weight of all the oil we have consumed and we have a lot of weight.

it makes me wonder what we are doing to our existance with this massive moving of Earth around. also keep in mind that all the concrete and rock that has been moved ever since the beginning of man doesnt come close to the amount of oil that has been taken out of the Earth.

today i submitted a post concerning the polarity shift the Earth is undergoing and its consequences. the rate of decay in our magnetic field has accelerated in recent years and it makes me wonder if our oil consumption isn't playing some unknown part in all this. granted the polarity shift will happen no matter what we do and i guess its happened several times before.

but no one knows why this is happening and some conjecture that is the result of a shifting iron core inside the Earth. well take a bunch of liquid (oil) out of the Earth, what will happen to liquid remainder ?(magma)

well they are at completely different locations in the Earths crust so they may not have any effect whatsever on the other, but then again... who knows?

 

sorry hit enter by mistake... but anyway, when we push atmosphere into space, we have heavy molecules that tend to have a high freezing point. they crystalize and eventually get together with other particles to form various phenomena. the "northern lights" are actually ice crystals of various gases ( the color of the light determines the gas displayed) and dust particles that give off light when they escape the Earth's protective atmosphere and become bombarded by the radiation from the sun.

eventually, so the story goes, the sun will burn, give off gases just like the Earth is, shrink, implode, and explode.

during this time which will take a few years ( about 5-15 billion years some think) the gases and dust will gather together and by some sort of cosmic force akin to static electricity, will start to swirl and become bunched together so tightly that the small molecules will fuse together, giving off heat in the process until a self-sustaining fusion reactor is created and Wa la!!

we now have Sun Jr. and the process starts all over again.

ok, now if the Sun can deteriorate into nothing, what makes you think that Earth cant do it and much faster i might add??

We dont have to implode. after all, we are not sitting on a self sustaining nuclear reaction. so there is no requirement to constantly be pushing little bits of Earth out into space like the sun does. all our disseminational habits were invented by man and controlled by man and i personally dont think its the wisest solution. lets face it for what it is, its the easiest solution, not the best.

as technology advances, i think its up to us to do what we can to pursue a better course of action as soon as possible. no one knows how much abuse our atmosphere can take. tremendous forces way beyond our comprehension created the atmosphere and we may find that if a certain threshold is crossed that a chain of events maybe be intialized that we cannot reverse no matter what we do.

after all, we dont know how to make world we live in. we only know how to destroy it.

 

no not a joke, poorly written maybe,

not as detailed as would be necessary to fully develop an idea, most definitely.

a birth of a star requires many things to start up. and ice crystals are a small part of the equation.

also atmospheric pressure works the same way as water pressure does in a general sense. to fully understand it thou, you also have to consider the mass of the components, the diameter of the earth, rate of rotation and therefore angular velocity, etc.

also you have to realize the post was accidently split by me so part of the post was posted earlier. i did state that nearly every thing we do is probably inconsequential. also my main point was that no one knows how much is too much concerning polution, greenhouse gases, etc. we may find one day that we have gone too far and dont know how to reverse what we have done.

there are simply too many things in nature that happen that we can only guess as to why it does what it does. now we come to a question of shifting polarity at the poles. the Earth is slowly reversing the magnetic field. unfortunately it appears that during this process, there will be a time when the magnetic field will be nil. no one knows why this is occuring. we obviously didnt cause it since there is proof that this has happened several times before.

from the site

http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/english/au...a_borealis.html

"The sun gives off high-energy charged particles (also called ions) that travel out into space at speeds of 300 to 1200 kilometres per second. A cloud of such particles is called a plasma. The stream of plasma coming from the sun is known as the solar wind. As the solar wind interacts with the edge of the earth's magnetic field, some of the particles are trapped by it and they follow the lines of magnetic force down into the ionosphere, the section of the earth's atmosphere that extends from about 60 to 600 kilometres above the earth's surface. When the particles collide with the gases in the ionosphere they start to glow, producing the spectacle that we know as the auroras, northern and southern. The array of colours consists of red, green, blue and violet. "

so ok... my post was not meant to be taken that literally. you realize that i wrote it with no real fforethought or research. but to say that im way off base is a bit much.

P.S. on the northern lights issue, i reread my post and did not see the mention of "cosmic rays" you mentioned.