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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by SnT08Prius, Jul 14, 2017.

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    What do you do when you park the car?
     
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    I was going to say it is an Australian expression, not British.

    For the Americans that may not know, a dummy is a pacifier, if that helps.
     
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    As in at the end of the day or during the day? It lives under a carport at night.
     
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    Talking about heat who cares where it is at night. The Prius has a huge windshield that if left uncovered will blast the car with incredible heat.
    Best investment if you own a Prius is a Weathertech Windshield Shade. They sell them here on this site. Form fitted to the car and insulated. Going on 10+ years on mine still in good shape. Dash looks brand new and no combo failure no mfd failure.
    Got an infra red thermometer? Scope the dash after being in the sun all day.
     
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    The Prius is on the road most of the day covering 200+ miles. So a window cover would not be much help in this case. But will leave the rear cover extended from now on. It looks like the heat issue was mainly the fan being clogged. Wont let it go so long next time.

    Just need to do the normal maint. things now to see if I can solve the surging issue @ coast. Like the MAF and TB. The PVC was checked not long ago. Plugs due in 30,000.
     
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    Cleaned the VVT valve out last night and on the first run today the car has stopped surging. Drove about 40 miles.

    When I pulled it out the valve still seemed to move freely when moving the valve manually, but sprayed it with cleaner until the black goop (old oil) was all gone. The car has had 5k oil changes for most of it's life and only going to 3k changes when it started using oil at around 180,000 miles or so.

    The normal MPG for city driving is around the 40-42mpg mark and on an open road trip 2 weeks ago hit 50mpg.
     
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    In 10 years have not seen anyone report any issue with the VVT system. You pulled the VVT valve and it was yucky so the VVT filter next to it behind the hex head bolt must be really bad. Search my years old posts I did a write up on that filter.
    VVT yucked up infers a life of dealer vat oil at long intervals so under the valve cover must not look to good either and the pcv valve must be severely clogged.
    Never seen anyone report removing that valve, I would go with cleaning the throttle body for surging.
    Never heard anyone with surging before and no misfires. That's throttle body.
     
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    The oil was just on 3,000 miles old and yes the car has been serviced by Toyota all it's life until 192,000 miles. So when the VVT valve came out, the oil was ready for a change and there fore looked dark - but not black or burnt. The throttle body was cleaned by Toyota beginning of last year and still looks very clean when I open the butterfly. It's not sticky at all when I push the spring.

    Spark plugs are due in 30,000 miles. The car seems to have plenty of power to get onto the motorways and up to speed and will cruise the interstate highways just fine. There is no miss under load at all.

    So it's back to the throttle body to see if that has issues.

    My OBII gadget is not reporting any codes as yet. I may need a better code reader!

    Wife reported it was surging again today after about 100 miles. HV battery is working as it should all be it not as strong now with 210,000 miles on it. The 12v battery is just over 1 year old and reported 12v using the diag mode on the car and 14.2 under load.
     
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    Dealer throttle body service is a can of Techron. Surging is the engine and the motor may just be worn out.
    Put it in inspection mode and the engine will run continuously for inspection. Listen closely top to bottom of engine for bad sounds and slight missing.

    Go on YouTube and search

    Prius inspection mode
     
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    That is next hey :)

    It only started doing this last week when the HV battery overheated due to the fan being clogged. I was unaware that the fan ran all the time as I had never heard it running assumed it would be fine.

    Wife also informs me today she hit a speed bump a little too fast just before it started to play up...
     
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    hmmm...both would throw a code. Big bad Bump usually results in abs sensor nag and anything out of parameter in the hybrid battery will throw a code immediately so I don't know. Good luck.
     
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    I guess doing 1,000 miles+ per week will show up as fault soon enough and this time when the red triangle comes on - wife has instructions to go get it read at a dealer. :)

    Will post the outcome when it comes to hand!
     
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    Well tonight the alarm went off again and the HV fan went full on! And it looks like it was low on oil too. (due for a change tomorrow) Wife added a qtr right away and next stop the red triangle, USC and the circle ! went out.

    So the car is using oil now as expected with high miles. But will just needing a qtr of oil trip an alarm?
     
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    Update here, Got a scan done at O'Rielys tonight with no codes showing up.

    The car has ran smoothly all day with no surging at all. It seems much happier with a belly full of oil.

    So the issue seems to be related to low oil, be it only 1 quart down. I will add oil every few days and see if it keeps the car happy and warning light free. It could be using 1 quart every 1,000 miles with no sign of leaks or smoke out the back - nor does it smell like it is burning oil. Very strange - but on par for 210,000 mile car.

    Oh and the throttle body was still very clean.
     
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    Wow! Sounds like you'd better keep a quart or two in the car with you and keep a very close eye on the dipstick.

    And regarding the O'Reilly's scanning ability, did you ask if they can read the Prius hybrid codes? Many shops like that cannot, so not seeing codes on their scanners doesn't necessarily mean you don't have codes.
     
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    Will check the oil now at 500-600 miles, so about every 2 or 3 days. Sort of negates the need for oil changes at 3,000 miles though as the car will have 3/4 fresh oil! LOL Just change the filter every 5,000.

    Anyway :) will wait to see if keeping the oil up to full mark will stop the surging (may have to do with the VVT system not having enough oil)
    and not set the HV battery fan off.

    It may just be a coincidence that the low oil sets off the HV fan! Just not sure. If we get the alarm again it will be off to Toyota to get a full scan done.
     
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    Unfortunately this is flawed logic as it doesn't really work that way. You need to dump the oil periodically to get rid of all the crud that accumulates and sits in the bottom of the sump. Best to do this every 5-10,000 mi when you change the filter regardless of how much you top up in between.
     
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    I did coils too. To get the huge jump from 35 to 54mpg the cheap ebay ones

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