1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Newbie Q - What MPG should a HEAVY foot in heavy city traffic expect?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by ucla95, Jul 7, 2006.

  1. ucla95

    ucla95 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2006
    11
    0
    0
    nt
     
  2. flareak

    flareak Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2004
    1,016
    20
    0
    Location:
    St Louis, MO
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    my guess is 38
     
  3. grasshopper

    grasshopper Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2006
    425
    2
    0
    Location:
    Myrtle Beach SC
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ucla95 @ Jul 7 2006, 02:39 PM) [snapback]282638[/snapback]</div>

    If you insist in beating everyone off the line and staying ahead of everyone and only drive in congested traffic, I predict in the 20’s. If you split that with freeway driving, then I predict high 30’s or low 40’s. I think I remember a post stating that at 100 mph the Prius gets about 26 mpg. I get 46 mpg at 80 mph. I suppose that if you try hard enough, you could get it into the teens. But I suspect that that would be very very difficult. But hey, I have faith in you, go get em. :) :lol: B)
     
  4. efusco

    efusco Moderator Emeritus
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2003
    19,891
    1,192
    9
    Location:
    Nixa, MO
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Guess it depends how heavy, how aggressive, what city, what kind of traffic, what weather, how long the trips are, all the usual stuff we need to know for any other MPG question.

    But if you're hyper-aggressive, weaving in and out of traffic, do short stops with no effort to anticipate stops or changing lights, etc. I guess you could manage to push the mileage down to close to 30mpg, esp. if your trips are fairly short.

    But there are a lot of variables, not the least of which is the fact that many people change their driving habits, for the better, once they get a Prius and have the instantaneous feedback of the MFD. One often becomes a more relaxed driver, figures out that even on longer trips your more relaxed driving style rarely costs you more than 1 or 2 minutes time and you arrive at your destination much less frazzled.

    On top of that you're a safer driver and not a menace to the public.

    Even with just modest efforts at being a good driver mileage will quicly be up closer to 45mph in warm weather and over 50 if you give half an effort at good FE.
     
  5. mikepaul

    mikepaul Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2003
    1,763
    6
    0
    Location:
    Columbia, SC
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    How heavy can one get if it's all that crowded? If the tires even think about spinning, they get shut down.

    I wouldn't expect EPA averages if you are doing 0 to <city speed limit> in 4 seconds, but a small amount of restraint sould still keep you in the 40's somewhere...
     
  6. naterprius

    naterprius Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2004
    1,843
    11
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Hmm, if you are trying very, very hard you could get the car below 30. You would have to drive extremely hard, so hard that the brakes would be in ABS mode for every stop. Also, only drive about 1 mile at a time, then shut off the car and get out for 30 minutes. Then, when you go to startup again, put the heat/ A/C on max hot or cold (depending on the weather) and let the car sit for 10 minutes before taking off. Floor it at every opportunity. That should get the car below 30 MPG. I'm not promising, but it seems likely.

    Nate
     
  7. paco-shalom

    paco-shalom Veteran Prius Owner

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2006
    62
    1
    0
    Location:
    Phoenix
    Vehicle:
    2005 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    With my Prius I have observed heavy-footed driving to achieve around 44 mpg in warm/hot weather for trips of 5-20 minutes at a time (my wife). I usually get about 54 mpg in the same conditions with a lighter foot.

    I have to say, that sure beats the 16 mpg she would get driving the minivan for the same trips, so I am willing to sacrifice the overall mpg on the car and let her drive my Prius when I am telecommuting.
     
  8. Rancid13

    Rancid13 Cool Chick with a Black Prius

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    2,452
    3
    0
    Location:
    Los Alamitos, Orange County, CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    High 30's, low 40's depending on how heavy the lead foot is.
     
  9. tnthub

    tnthub Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2006
    519
    8
    0
    Location:
    Brunswick, Maine
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    The "worst" I could do in a brand new malibu was 18... I suspect you will still be over 30 in a Prius. However "heavy foot" and "Prius", in my opinion, do not belong in the same sentence. The car is designed for efficiency and great economy, and the performance benefit of a heavy foot simply isn't there. I have to turn the wheels and do a brake stand to get the front wheels to spin and even then it is only a baby chirp.
     
  10. snoggin

    snoggin New Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2006
    10
    0
    0
    Well my experience with 3k under the belt is this. I live in northern ca jus north of san francisco and commute in about 14 miles a day and then drive around the city from job to job and on errands, I am a GC and this is my light duty "truck". I started off with about 43 mpg but now after the novelty of the mfd has abated somewhat i have averaged 38 mpg with my normal driving. Now this is in San Francisco where there are many steep hills and yu have to stop almost every block in the neighborhoods . I never really kept track what the mpg of my tundra was but I am sure i would be close o 33percent of what I am getting with the prius. Just think what you get with a lead foot in a normal car!
     
  11. jbarnhart

    jbarnhart New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2004
    629
    1
    0
    Location:
    Santa Clara, CA
    The easy way to get poor milage in a Prius is to drive it only one or two miles each time. I can get into the low 30's pretty easily that way. On longer trips, even if you drive it like you stole it, you'll do decent if not exceptional milage. The little 1.5 liter engine just isn't going to let you get into too much trouble.
     
  12. V8Cobrakid

    V8Cobrakid Green Handyman

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2004
    3,790
    152
    0
    Location:
    Park View, Los Angeles, CA. U.S.A
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    I never get below 40.
     
  13. mssmith95

    mssmith95 Michael

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2006
    535
    4
    0
    Location:
    Valencia, CA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Premium
    Well a lot also depends on terrain.

    Flat or dowhill and your heavy foot will be minimized. Uphill and it will be a killer.

    Heavy foot also means that you will get up to speed faster and hopefully be coasting more...a technique which has been suggested by many of the more seasoned Prius masters.

    So with a good route and some good coasting (and with some good weather), you can probably obtain the low to mid 40's...maybe even better. Just make sure to get your tire pressure up to speed (42/40 if you can take the extra bumps).
     
  14. hobbit

    hobbit Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2005
    4,089
    468
    0
    Location:
    Bahstahn
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    I'll bet the flatbed that the crumpled remains of your Prius ends up
    on after you've launched it into some solid object will not get
    particularly good mileage at all. Well, if you survive, maybe you
    can drop some MPG hints to the tow driver...
    .
    _H*
     
  15. mssmith95

    mssmith95 Michael

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2006
    535
    4
    0
    Location:
    Valencia, CA
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Prime Premium
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(hobbit @ Jul 7 2006, 11:30 PM) [snapback]282916[/snapback]</div>

    LOL! Great one H*!
     
  16. Sufferin' Prius Envy

    Sufferin' Prius Envy Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2004
    3,998
    18
    0
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    “HEAVY foot in heavy city traffic . . . Just trying to be realistic...â€

    I thought to myself when I read that, “I wonder where the poster lives.â€

    Hmmmm. The Midwest. Curious thing . . . that sounds more like LA driving to me.

    Then I saw your Member Name . . . UCLA95 ~ Ah! That explains it! :lol:

    Heavy foot in a Prius is about as logical a whipping a Shetland Pony in an attempt to race a Thoroughbred. <_<
     
  17. FireEngineer

    FireEngineer Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    1,247
    124
    0
    Location:
    SW-Side of Chicago, IL
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
  18. ucla95

    ucla95 New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2006
    11
    0
    0
    I live in downtown Chicago but am a UCLA alum... so I've experienced both cities and you know what, Chicago is WORSE than LA (the highways are narrower) for traffic! Unfortunately I cannot make the Danny thing, will be out of town on the 16th.
    And how many posts do I need by the way to get this rookie tag off my signature?!?
     
  19. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    44,899
    16,123
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    100?
    or 50.. not sure

    Hmm, I refuelled yesterday (and of course had the MFD resetted). I drove less conservatively than I normally do since I had a time constraint. There were 3 stops to be made and I did all that in 30 mins. (travelled a total of 19.6kms). When it was all said and done, I had 3.8L/100km (61.9mpg) showing on the MFD lol.
     
  20. wilco

    wilco New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2005
    402
    1
    0
    Under certain situations, a heavy foot will achieve better mileage than a light one. When you start the car on a cold morning you shouldn't drive with too light a foot because it prolongs the warming up time of the ICE. If you gingerly creep away from stops not allowing the ICE to start, you'll be cutting your mileage because running the ICE is a more efficient way to accelerate.

    I'm from Chicago, and I've lived in SoCal, so I know of the traffic you're talking about, and I'm sure I could get mpg in the 40s without p'ing off any of the other drivers in those areas.

    The change in temps from summer to winter will have a far greater effect on your mpg than your driving technique.