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50 ft extension cord - 14 gauge - Is it safe to use?

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  1. Lee Jay

    Lee Jay Senior Member

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    Not that way!

    You have to find the circuit breaker that feeds the plug and see what it says. It's going to be either 15A or 20A, most likely.
     
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    As stated above, no, the only way to actually test the circuit is to load it, and if you don't know what you're doing that can be dangerous. For example, I have seen breakers explode sending parts in all directions (some barely missing me) and I have seen them catch fire. The breaker won't trip at its' rated current for some time. It has to heat up first, and that is the dangerous part.

    Note that a ground fault circuit is called for in the Toyota spec. The breaker can be changed to that type, but they do tend to be expensive as breakers, in the $100 range. Less expensive are ground fault duplex outlets, which can be had for roughly $10.
     
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    Just read the label on the device to determine the current draw, unless you have an amp meter. The capacity of the circuit is designed. If it is a 110 volt household circuit, it is either 15 amps or 20 amps. 15 amp circuits are installed with No. 14 wire, 20 amp circuits with No. 12. A 20 amp circuit has a maximum design load of 16 amps (circuits are de-rated to 80 percent of their capacity. Electrical design is a bit of a black art.
     
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    When I put in Chargepoint Home charger, the electrician put in a NEMA 6-50 outlet. The breaker is an ordinary two-pole type, with no mention of GFCI. Are 240V circuits not subject to the GFCI rule?
     
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    Did the Chargepoint require a GFI? Read the installation specifications. Ground fault and arc fault devices are available in lots of voltages. If a GFI is required for 240 volts it will require one for each side of the box.
     
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    Prices in the US must be different than Canada. Last year I replaced a GFCI circuit breaker for $30. I believe the GFCI receptacles are a little less expensive, but more than $10.

    Shop Legrand Radiant 20-Amp 125-Volt White Indoor GFCI Decorator Wall Outlet at Lowes.com
     
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    Right. Very small investment. Invest in a 12ga cable for regular use. Still, if you must to use a 14ga cable uncoil it and check the plug temp regularly. If you feel any heat it stop using it.

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    Keep the connectors dry.

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    I use 12 gauge 50 foot extension cord with my charging cable plugged into that (when I do charge it). I wouldn't recommend 14 gauge.
     
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    Does the different gauge extension cord change the charge time at all?


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    Theoretically yes, because of different voltage drop in the cable, but it's a very small amount (low single digit percentage).
     
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    Dang, was hoping it would do something substantial.


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    A new EVSE supporting 16A would help (as long as you have a 20A circuit) and a 240V source would help even more.