1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Gen 4 no faster than previous Gens?

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Technical Discussion' started by raspy, Oct 30, 2017.

Page 1 of 4
  1. raspy

    raspy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2016
    438
    699
    0
    Location:
    London, UK
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    On a private road the other morning, I happened to test my Gen4 vs a 2011 Prius from a standing start up to 60mph, and I was surprised that despite pedal to the metal, my Gen4 was neck and neck and could not get past the older Prius, not even by an inch. I tried this test a number of times, and each time, the result was the same.

    I thought Gen 4 was supposed to be a little bit quicker than the older model?
     
    #1 raspy, Oct 30, 2017
    Data Daedalus, HPrimeAdvanced and RCO like this.
  2. JimboPalmer

    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    12,470
    6,862
    2
    Location:
    Greenwood MS USA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Three
    Gen 3 134 HP, Gen 4 121 HP
     
    #2 JimboPalmer, Oct 30, 2017
    Keithstef, Data Daedalus, Montgomery and 2 others like this.
  3. paprius4030

    paprius4030 My first Prius

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2004
    2,077
    295
    0
    Location:
    Ormond Beach,Fl.
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    ROFLMAO Your preaching to the wrong group! I think most here are interested in if our Gen4 is getting 52 mpg vs. our old Gen. 2 getting 51 mpg. I always joke when I was young I cared more about getting a new 4bbl. carb for my Duster now I car more about pulse and glide.
     
    #3 paprius4030, Oct 30, 2017
    Leadfoot J. McCoalroller, Data Daedalus, Montgomery and 5 others like this.
  4. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,781
    48,985
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    yeah, i doubt we'll see any pri getting faster anytime soon. but if sedans catch up in mpg's, somethings gotta give.
     
    #4 bisco, Oct 30, 2017
    Envirogator, Data Daedalus, HPrimeAdvanced and 1 other person like this.
  5. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    44,836
    16,072
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    That's correct. 0-60mph remains the same. It's slightly faster initially because they've tuned the electric motor for low end grunt (that's why everyone who drives the new Gen 4 around the city says it feels more peppy).

    Also the hp rating is simply a change in the way they measure net horsepower. It should be roughly the same as the Gen 3 (maybe a few horses down but not 13hp if you were to compare the published numbers of each). The Gen 3 was rated at 9.8 but I doubt it... it's more like 10.5 secs.
     
    #5 Tideland Prius, Oct 31, 2017
    Data Daedalus, Montgomery, HPrimeAdvanced and 2 others like this.
  6. Tande

    Tande Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    498
    301
    0
    Location:
    Mich.
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    II
    Surprised we are even discussing this subject.......too old, I guess....:confused:
     
    #6 Tande, Oct 31, 2017
    Data Daedalus, kithmo, Montgomery and 3 others like this.
  7. JimboPalmer

    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    12,470
    6,862
    2
    Location:
    Greenwood MS USA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Three
    The Prius has all the power any adult could need, but not all the power any boy could want.
     
    #7 JimboPalmer, Oct 31, 2017
    Data Daedalus, kithmo, Montgomery and 9 others like this.
  8. jerrymildred

    jerrymildred Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    11,491
    14,100
    0
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Two
    If you want to impress me with street legal acceleration, it will cost at least $250,000. Or get something with only two wheels. :D

    Also, there are variables from machine to machine even in the same model and year.

    Still, I'm a little surprised at this because I thought I'd seen or heard early on that the gen 4 was a little stronger than gen 3. Either they were wrong, or I'm inventing memories. :confused:
     
    #8 jerrymildred, Oct 31, 2017
    HPrimeAdvanced, Prodigyplace and alanclarkeau like this.
  9. fuzzy1

    fuzzy1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    17,118
    10,045
    90
    Location:
    Western Washington
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    If you count both traveling and refueling time needed to reach any great distance, I suspect the Gen4 should be the fastest.

    And even more so if the amount of fuel available is capped. At any fixed target MPG, the Gen4 should be able to sustain the highest MPH.
     
    #9 fuzzy1, Oct 31, 2017
    HPrimeAdvanced, jerrymildred and alanclarkeau like this.
  10. alanclarkeau

    alanclarkeau Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2016
    7,041
    7,580
    0
    Location:
    near Brisbane, Australia
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    I remember reading one of the first Motoring Journalists commented that it was "quicker off the mark" - referring to launching from a traffic light. I don't recall any figures were given, more a "seat of the pants" "gut feeling" (to mix metaphors).
     
    #10 alanclarkeau, Oct 31, 2017
    HPrimeAdvanced, RCO and jerrymildred like this.
  11. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,781
    48,985
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    i like to turtle when the light turns green.
     
    #11 bisco, Oct 31, 2017
    Data Daedalus, HPrimeAdvanced, Mendel Leisk and 1 other person like this.
  12. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    44,836
    16,072
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Yeah it's slightly quicker (And does feel like it) from 0-50 or 0-60km/h. Beyond that to 100km/h, it's slower so the average of the entire 0-100km/h time is the same as the Gen 3.
     
    #12 Tideland Prius, Oct 31, 2017
    HPrimeAdvanced and jerrymildred like this.
  13. alanclarkeau

    alanclarkeau Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2016
    7,041
    7,580
    0
    Location:
    near Brisbane, Australia
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    I had a VW Microbus in the '70s with a ZF Auto, but also BIG (thirsty) jets in the twin Carburetors (if you don't know what a Carburetor is - it was a pre-Fuel-Injection thingy), the ZF had been tinkered with too. It was quick off the mark - for about 2-4 metres, by which time the V8s in the next lane overtook and disappeared. Fun - legally.
     
    #13 alanclarkeau, Oct 31, 2017
    Data Daedalus, HPrimeAdvanced, RCO and 1 other person like this.
  14. pilotgrrl

    pilotgrrl Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2017
    891
    1,796
    0
    Location:
    Chicagoan in TX
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Three
    It's no speed demon, but it certainly seems peppier than my Gen 2 was, especially in PWR mode.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
    #14 pilotgrrl, Oct 31, 2017
    Data Daedalus, HPrimeAdvanced, Prodigyplace and 1 other person like this.
  15. RCO

    RCO Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2016
    3,709
    5,183
    0
    Location:
    Cornwall
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Is that like the Ninja Turtle?
     
    #15 RCO, Nov 1, 2017
    Data Daedalus, HPrimeAdvanced, bisco and 1 other person like this.
  16. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    107,781
    48,985
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    stealth is the watchword.;)
     
    #16 bisco, Nov 1, 2017
    Data Daedalus, HPrimeAdvanced, RCO and 1 other person like this.
  17. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    21,742
    11,327
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Friend had a 2005 Camry with the V6. It would be competitive with those V8s going to 60mph. It's a freakin' family sedan. Why do we think we need to go so fast to the next stop light?
     
    #17 Trollbait, Nov 1, 2017
    Data Daedalus, Montgomery, HPrimeAdvanced and 1 other person like this.
  18. DonDNH

    DonDNH Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    1,711
    654
    0
    Location:
    Nashua, NH
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Four Touring
    I now care more about pulse and breathing.:rolleyes::ROFLMAO:
     
    #18 DonDNH, Nov 1, 2017
    Data Daedalus, Montgomery, HPrimeAdvanced and 2 others like this.
  19. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,710
    38,247
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Good video throughout, or start around 7:10, for the high speed test:

     
    #19 Mendel Leisk, Nov 1, 2017
    nednvermont, HPrimeAdvanced, RCO and 1 other person like this.
  20. raspy

    raspy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2016
    438
    699
    0
    Location:
    London, UK
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Given how virtually every Prius here is a taxi, I figured that a 6 year old Prius with probably 100k miles and up would be maybe down on power compared to when it was new. Yes, off the line my car was slightly ahead, but once we got going we were both level.
     
    #20 raspy, Nov 2, 2017
    Data Daedalus, HPrimeAdvanced, RCO and 1 other person like this.
(You must log in or sign up to post here.)
Page 1 of 4