1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Engine Block Heaters

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Accessories and Modifications' started by csphilipps, Jan 8, 2015.

  1. csphilipps

    csphilipps New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2014
    7
    1
    0
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Alright, I've read all over the place that people are using EBH's to boost their cold-weather mileage a touch and I've decided to get one for experimental purposes. It got down to -15 F here last year, after all.

    I have a Gen II and a Gen III in my stable, though the Gen II is currently in the shop for some electrical problems. I understand that EBH's are pretty much one-size-fits-all for these, but I've noticed that there are multiple different part numbers available from Toyota. The folks at Juicedhybrid have a different EBH for my '12 than they do for the '08.

    One part number ends in 900 and the other ends in 902. I swear that last time I saw Toyota's engine block heater application chart, it recommended the same one for all model years: the 902. Does anyone have experience related to the difference in these heaters? Do you guys know something that I don't know?
     
  2. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,674
    38,217
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    We use the block heater year 'round, very mild winters here. Got it dealer installed at time of purchase, for $400. :cautious:

    In Canada now, Toyota Canada offers the block heater as an installed accesory for 3rd gen Prius for $236. Toyota's US site makes no mention of it. Also, wonder if these prices only apply at point-of-sale, or anytime. Just food for thought, the install is not a walk in the park, I've heard.

    But it's doable. Some go in from above, some from below. From above I think you need to remove the wiper assemblies and windshield cowl. Good video on that here:



    The part alone is maybe around $60~80 if you just walk up to the dealership parts counter. Or the PriusChat store? This is a snapshot from Toyota Canada website:

    Capture.JPG
     
  3. csphilipps

    csphilipps New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2014
    7
    1
    0
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Yes, I've found the part for $60 online. My local dealer seemed to be quite confident that it didn't exist. I'm not going to do it myself (at least not until March) because I don't have a heated garage nor do I have the equipment to go in from below, which seems to be the preferable way of doing things.

    I can't seem to find any difference between the 902 heater and the 900 heater. There is also an 899 which seems to be an obsolete part. I'll probably go ahead and order one. There must be some grease monkeys around here who can handle the job.
     
  4. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,674
    38,217
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    There's a number of instructions on the web regarding install. There are some tricks. You want to make sure the thing is fully greased for heat transfer, yet when pushing it in it's good to leave an thin, bare channel in the grease, so air can escape. And no matter what the method, access is very limited. Be very careful to tie the plug very securely at the front grill, and use an extension cord that'll pull out readily, for when you forget to unplug. It will happen.
     
  5. tgpii

    tgpii Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2012
    382
    63
    13
    Location:
    Tapier Lake/Orland Park, Ilinois
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius c
    Model:
    Two
    I ask this before so please don't mark me as spam. I can't find the boards where I posted this before if you find them PLEASE let me know. Currently I live near Chicago, Illinois USA. I am trying to move to Anchorage, Alaska. I have a 2012 Toyota Prius C two with 72,000 miles. I have my second set of all season tires. I know I am going to have an engine block heater and see if that works. Will I need anything else such as oil pain heater, battery heater, snow tires ETC?
     
  6. JimboPalmer

    JimboPalmer Tsar of all the Rushers

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2009
    12,470
    6,862
    2
    Location:
    Greenwood MS USA
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Three
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  7. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,674
    38,217
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Have Priuschat purchases been coming through ok? There were issues. I don't know now. Just order through a dealership, especially if you want installed.
     
  8. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    44,831
    16,066
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    This?

    I think I may have asked this before. If I have asked this or there are similar forums please let m | PriusChat


    This is a 3rd gen thread.

    you might be better off asking in a general forum like FHOPancakes so that other owners may chime in and help. Your questions don't appear to be Prius c specific but more "how do I prepare my car for Anchorage"

    Hopefully @efusco can help. He's lived in Alaska before. @spiderman is in Alaska as well IIRC.
     
  9. tgpii

    tgpii Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2012
    382
    63
    13
    Location:
    Tapier Lake/Orland Park, Ilinois
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius c
    Model:
    Two
    Thank you, sorry, and Happy Holidays!
     
    Tideland Prius likes this.
  10. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    44,831
    16,066
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    No worries. Happy Holidays!
     
  11. Suds

    Suds Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2018
    31
    30
    0
    Location:
    Wichita
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    XLE
    I purchased the Block Heater for my 2012 Prius Plug IN Advanced. Part number PU140-0000913US -2 is for the 202 watt model. I followed the instructions on https://priuschat.com/files/2010PriusBlockHeaterInstallationInstructions.pdf.

    I have seen post and attempted to install the block heater from underneath on a 2008 Prius so I never even attempted go under on this 2012 model. I would not go underneath unless you want your hands to look like you have been in knife fight LOL.

    After removing the cowling "took about 25 minutes" it is an easy shot to the hole in the block. MAKE SURE you follow the instructions and remove the bolt that holds the high voltage cable and pull it up out of the way, otherwise it will be a major battle to insert the heater.

    The heater does install with the cable and the locking clip pointed towards the firewall or the driver. I installed the cord to the heater before installation. There is a hot exhaust pipe very close by, ensure you use the zip ties to route the cord away from this heat source.

    The heater has been installed from underneath but WOW, he must be a magician and I'm sure he had a major battle with the wires in the way. You have been warned.

    Note: I have attached a 1 foot extension cord to the Heater Cord. If damage were to occur from plugin and unplugging I could replace the short extension cord rather than replace the whole heater cord, which would be a major operation.

    Also before you ever start the installation plug the heater in and test that is working prior to installation. Be careful it will get to 175 degrees in seconds.


    IMG_1092.jpeg IMG_1093.jpeg IMG_1094.jpeg D39982C7-E49C-4B34-B296-F45B0ABC64A7_1_201_a.jpeg IMG_1096.jpeg seconds.
     

    Attached Files:

    #11 Suds, Aug 29, 2020
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2020
    Mendel Leisk likes this.
  12. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,674
    38,217
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Double zip-tie the cord where it comes out through the grill: you want to make sure the extension cord pulls away, before the cord starts getting dragged out of the grill. (y)
     
    Suds likes this.
  13. Suds

    Suds Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2018
    31
    30
    0
    Location:
    Wichita
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    XLE
    OH I would never forget to unplug the cord LOL. Have you heard of the new GPS for us old people. "Not only does it tell you where you are going but it reminds you why you went"
     
    Raytheeagle and Mendel Leisk like this.
  14. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    54,674
    38,217
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Count on forgetting, at least once. :ROFLMAO:

    Yeah I did the install from below, absurdly crowded and awkward.